I'm sorry, but Calzaghe defeated Hopkins comfortably

[abadger]

No. You don't get off that easy.
I bet 10k on the Zags B-Hop fight. I lost. No big deal. I said that B-hop would hit Joe with a big counter and win via a SD. Look the **** up. Well I was wrong, on one count.
No, you deal in absolutes. In a "Prime Joe would KO a Prime RJJ" type of way. Remember THAT **** bomb of a post? I know your kind. You try to come off as fair, and whoa is me. But really, EVERY single ****ing discussion I see you poke your dull witted head in is about Calzaghe.
So embrace your NUTHUGGING status. Some on here are so blatant, that it is actually funny. You're just a ****ing droll mouth breather that can't take a hint...
So, you're a NUTHUGGER. Embrace it. Live it.

I am a Calzaghe fan, yes, so if that makes me a NUTHUGGER then fine, I'll be one for you.

I'll tell you what I think though. I think this is whole NUTHUGGER concept is the single thing that undermines these boards. To me it is just a word trotted out by lazy posters in one of two scenarios 1) when their little stereotype of what is and isn't so in boxing is questioned and they lack the wit and insight to find a reply and 2) when they are jealous that a fighter they don't like is dominating his division and they feel the need to take it out a little bit on their fans.

Heres how I earned my NUTHUGGER stripes. First I stated that Calzaghe would beat Roy Jones. I'm sorry to break what appears to be a fundamental law of US boxing wisdom, but Jones was not unbeatable, and has got KTFO on several occasions. That same amazing athlete with the phenomenal speed has a WEAK ASS CHIN. Its just reality. Predicting that Calzaghe would have KO'd him is a perfectly valid opinion, since Calzaghe is probably the most talented SMW we've seen since Jones, and thus the most likely to be the one who could do it. It's not an absolute, as you suggest, but it is my reasoned opinion, but lo and behold, because I suggest a flaw in your boy: I'M A NUTHUGGER.

Think about it man, I'm saying that a fighter who has been KO'd by lesser fighters than Joe could get KO'd by Joe. Your saying that a fighter who has been KO'd couldn't get KO'd! It's just logic and it makes you the NUTHUGGER not me.

The second thing I did to earn my NUTHUGGER stripes was to make a thread saying that in a fight that Joe Calzaghe actually won, he actually won. In this instance it is not even an opinion, it is a fact, and once again, for this I am branded a NUTHUGGER. It is ludicrous. Now, I agree that there is room for debate about the manner and closeness of the fight, but that is exactly what the thread was, it was my response to the absolutely relentless Calzaghe is ****, B-Hop won posts you see on here, and where anyone who dares to state that this isn't so is a NUTHUGGER. How jealous actually are these posters? Is it really so hard for them to accept that Calzaghe won that they have to pretend he didn't and insult those that think he did?


As I said at the start, this whole NUTHUGGER thing is spoiling these boards. At the end of the issue of whether Joe Calzaghe beat Hopkins is really not that important. Boxing is a trivial thing really that I take an interest in for a hobby, it's supposed to be fun, and when I post on a message board I just find it disappointing when a chorus of NUTHUGGER is the response to any attempt to challenge the status quo of opinion here. It's lazy, it's tired, it's old and it sometimes makes posting here a chore rather than a pleasure. It's a boxing forum, not a playground.

So please, take it somewhere else.

[Sweet Pea 50]

Take what where? The nuthugging thing? Yes son, YOU are one. You didn't read my post. Which was pretty simple, concise, and straight to the point.
The minute you can tell me something about boxing, is the minute I will hang up my wraps, my mouth piece, and my gloves.
Your claim to fame on this board is this ONE fight.
And you got put on BLAST for it. Once again, a ****ing failed college students thesis about what you WANT **** to be.
You came on a American boxing board. Bitching about why the whole scene doesn't think Joe is ****ing the next coming of Jesus.
You can't take it, fine. But I can see through YOU...
I expect another 1500 word article post soon, NUTHUGGER. You'll be on the P4P charts in no time.....

[abadger]

Take what where? The nuthugging thing? Yes son, YOU are one. You didn't read my post. Which was pretty simple, concise, and straight to the point.
The minute you can tell me something about boxing, is the minute I will hang up my wraps, my mouth piece, and my gloves.
Your claim to fame on this board is this ONE fight.
And you got put on BLAST for it. Once again, a ****ing failed college students thesis about what you WANT **** to be.
You came on a American boxing board. Bitching about why the whole scene doesn't think Joe is ****ing the next coming of Jesus.
You can't take it, fine. But I can see through YOU...
I expect another 1500 word article post soon, NUTHUGGER. You'll be on the P4P charts in no time.....

As I said, take your **** somewhere else, idiot.

[tyson]

Take what where? The nuthugging thing? Yes son, YOU are one. You didn't read my post. Which was pretty simple, concise, and straight to the point.
The minute you can tell me something about boxing, is the minute I will hang up my wraps, my mouth piece, and my gloves.
Your claim to fame on this board is this ONE fight.
And you got put on BLAST for it. Once again, a ****ing failed college students thesis about what you WANT **** to be.
You came on a American boxing board. Bitching about why the whole scene doesn't think Joe is ****ing the next coming of Jesus.
You can't take it, fine. But I can see through YOU...
I expect another 1500 word article post soon, NUTHUGGER. You'll be on the P4P charts in no time.....

Is he not ****ing the next coming of Jesus?

I'm disappointed...

[abadger]

Is he not ****ing the next coming of Jesus?

I'm disappointed...

Yes..he is, don't worry.

[tyson]

Yes..he is, don't worry.

So he is, after all, gay?

That's what I thought with the dry humping and slapping

[Sweet Pea 50]

Is he not ****ing the next coming of Jesus?

I'm disappointed...

Now where the hell have you've been at, man?

[Vladimir303]

It is true that the terms nuthugger and hater spoil these boards sometimes. There are some who no matter what, always reduce people's good analysis and simplify it down to "you're just a hater" or "you're just a nuthuggeer".

Personally I don't use those words much. You the thread started wrote a whole chapter about Calzaghe and why he won "clearly and impressive". I and other responded back with Non-insulting posts on why we disagree. That's where it should have stayed but you couldn't leave it alone and had to rubb it it and have the last word as if you making the last statement over rides everything that has been said. I'M SORRY, but this how it really is what you're telling us. Well I'm telling you, I'm sorry but it aint.

You're trying to force your opinion upon others and the minute people see through your bull**** you play the victim's role. Just cut the **** out or deal with the consequences. Or if you can't handle the heat, get out of the kitchen my lil friend.

Don't act like you're above it.

[RichCCFC]

I am a Calzaghe fan, yes, so if that makes me a NUTHUGGER then fine, I'll be one for you.

I'll tell you what I think though. I think this is whole NUTHUGGER concept is the single thing that undermines these boards. To me it is just a word trotted out by lazy posters in one of two scenarios 1) when their little stereotype of what is and isn't so in boxing is questioned and they lack the wit and insight to find a reply and 2) when they are jealous that a fighter they don't like is dominating his division and they feel the need to take it out a little bit on their fans.

Heres how I earned my NUTHUGGER stripes. First I stated that Calzaghe would beat Roy Jones. I'm sorry to break what appears to be a fundamental law of US boxing wisdom, but Jones was not unbeatable, and has got KTFO on several occasions. That same amazing athlete with the phenomenal speed has a WEAK ASS CHIN. Its just reality. Predicting that Calzaghe would have KO'd him is a perfectly valid opinion, since Calzaghe is probably the most talented SMW we've seen since Jones, and thus the most likely to be the one who could do it. It's not an absolute, as you suggest, but it is my reasoned opinion, but lo and behold, because I suggest a flaw in your boy: I'M A NUTHUGGER.

Think about it man, I'm saying that a fighter who has been KO'd by lesser fighters than Joe could get KO'd by Joe. Your saying that a fighter who has been KO'd couldn't get KO'd! It's just logic and it makes you the NUTHUGGER not me.

The second thing I did to earn my NUTHUGGER stripes was to make a thread saying that in a fight that Joe Calzaghe actually won, he actually won. In this instance it is not even an opinion, it is a fact, and once again, for this I am branded a NUTHUGGER. It is ludicrous. Now, I agree that there is room for debate about the manner and closeness of the fight, but that is exactly what the thread was, it was my response to the absolutely relentless Calzaghe is ****, B-Hop won posts you see on here, and where anyone who dares to state that this isn't so is a NUTHUGGER. How jealous actually are these posters? Is it really so hard for them to accept that Calzaghe won that they have to pretend he didn't and insult those that think he did?


As I said at the start, this whole NUTHUGGER thing is spoiling these boards. At the end of the issue of whether Joe Calzaghe beat Hopkins is really not that important. Boxing is a trivial thing really that I take an interest in for a hobby, it's supposed to be fun, and when I post on a message board I just find it disappointing when a chorus of NUTHUGGER is the response to any attempt to challenge the status quo of opinion here. It's lazy, it's tired, it's old and it sometimes makes posting here a chore rather than a pleasure. It's a boxing forum, not a playground.

So please, take it somewhere else.

Great post but I'll warn you ahead.

No one will post a reasonable reply to that.

[Kilrain]

I didn't score it round for round; general feeling being that Calzaghe had did enough in the latter half of the fight to claim victory. Sure, he "harried" Hopkins around the ring; I wouldn't expect him to be standoffish against a 43-year-old fighting in remarkably conservative spurts, but Hopkins DID land the cleaner, more effective punching, as well as the harder, crisper punches. It was quite a poor fight over all. Hopkins should retire. Calzaghe should fight a primed fighter like Pavlik. Either way Calzaghe and Hattons Stateside forays proved they weren't as good as they'd been blown up to be. Hatton waded in and got countered to death with no hint of a Plan B. Calzaghe chased Hopkins around for 12 rounds, winning sheerly by the grace of his birth certificate, and looking terrible in the process.