I'm sorry, but Calzaghe defeated Hopkins comfortably

[tyson]

When has Hopkins ever looked as good as this?

Hopkins has never been particularly pretty.

Trick question.

[RichCCFC]

Someone said in either this thread or another than Calzaghe can't box.

He boxes better than Hopkins..

[TheGreatA]

When has Hopkins ever looked as good as this?

[1g5a22]

Like I said, if you fail to answer your own question on why people left before the end of the fight, I feel sorry for you.

The average fan is not particularly interested in boxing. They go to a fight, especially a hyped fight like that, to be a part of the fuzz.

Only to a hardcore boxing fan is a boxing match like that intriguing.

The people that left were not real boxing fans, they were fuzzboys.

your pity is wasted,,lol!

if you were more clear in the first place i would have answered you,the fact that i didnt ask a question,rather stated a fact is neither here nor there,your clearly wanting a back n forth thing about nothing really,there is no argument to be had!

they were leaving due to hopkins' disgracefull antics in the fight,my friend was there and they were booing there own fighter,my thoughts on this and u are utter indifference.

dont exspect a reply,its all too predictable.

[Dirt E Gomez]

Because Joe landed more scoring punches.

I hear this phrase when talking about boxing and reading these forums all the ****ing time...

This is not the amateurs. Scoring punches are meaningless. I've never figured out how 'scoring' punches matters for anything in the pros. People, including judges, have latched onto this notion and it's ******ed.

Ring Generalship
Clean/Effective Punching
Effective Aggression
Defense

Those are the 4 things that are used to score a round of boxing... if you define throwing complete pitter-patter shots that do less than a jab as clean or effective punching then you need to stop watching boxing now.

I'm ok w/ saying Calzaghe won the fight... but he shouldn't have. Hopkins took too much time off despite being better in every category of generalship, clean punching, effective aggression, and defense... but he only fought small portions of each round.

Judges gave Calzaghe the fight by default because of that. Neither fighter should be used as examples of how to win fights. Calzaghe should be awarded nothing for the bulk of his punches and a fighter has to throw more than Nard.

[S.W.F.C]

Its disgusting how much hate Calzaghe gets on here.
If he was American then i bet you the haters would be creaming in there tiny boxer shorts over him. It all boils down to jealousy, the yanks haven't got a fighter around at the moment who has been a dominant champ for so long like Joe.

It doesn't matter who he beats he would still get no respect off the haters, lets say he beats Tarver, Pavlik and Jones then retires, mark my words he would still get a raw deal, they will find some **** excuses to knock him.

[abadger]

Just want to say to any of you guys who are still making the "Hopkins landed cleaner more effective shots" argument:

You are so deep in denial that it is bordering on the delusional.

Your whole argument that is based on the fact you don't like Calzaghe's punching technique.

You talk as though not a single punch Calzaghe threw was effective.

It is baby talk, not boxing analysis.

Calzaghe hit Bernard cleanly more times than Bernard hit him.

If you want to talk 'effectiveness', which fighter was desperately clinching to avoid being hit, and which fighter came after the other time and time again?

If you want to talk ring generalship, who forced the pace of the fight and stayed busy? Which fighter was content to clinch on the ropes?

I genuinely feel sorry for you all that you can't tolerate the reality of Bernard losing.

If you want to believe that Hopkins won that fight then fine, but do not post that **** in threads here as though it is the truth.

You can't rewrite history.

Your man lost guys, on the cards and in reality.

Deal with it.

[tyson]

your pity is wasted,,lol!

if you were more clear in the first place i would have answered you,the fact that i didnt ask a question,rather stated a fact is neither here nor there,your clearly wanting a back n forth thing about nothing really,there is no argument to be had!

they were leaving due to hopkins' disgracefull antics in the fight,my friend was there and they were booing there own fighter,my thoughts on this and u are utter indifference.

dont exspect a reply,its all too predictable.

I don't want a back and forth discussion on why people leave before the end.

If someone expected a thriller of a fight from Hopkins, they are not knowledgable on the fighters they are watching. That means they are not hardcore fans. Merely fuzzboys.

Hopkins did exactly what he has done the last 4 years, only with even slower pace.

[Steak]

I disagree.

Kessler by the way is not as good as people make him out to be.

I know a guy who knocked him out in sparring a few years ago. No ****.

were you just screwing around, or did this really happen haha? who did that?

Just want to say to any of you guys who are still making the "Hopkins landed cleaner more effective shots" argument:

You are so deep in denial that it is bordering on the delusional.

Your whole argument that is based on the fact you don't like Calzaghe's punching technique.

You talk as though not a single punch Calzaghe threw was effective.

It is baby talk, not boxing analysis.

Calzaghe hit Bernard cleanly more times than Bernard hit him.

If you want to talk 'effectiveness', which fighter was desperately clinching to avoid being hit, and which fighter came after the other time and time again?

If you want to talk ring generalship, who forced the pace of the fight and stayed busy? Which fighter was content to clinch on the ropes?

I genuinely feel sorry for you all that you can't tolerate the reality of Bernard losing.

If you want to believe that Hopkins won that fight then fine, but do not post that **** in threads here as though it is the truth.

You can't rewrite history.

Your man lost guys, on the cards and in reality.

Deal with it.

yes, Hopkins lost, but barely. Calzaghe did NOT land very clean punches, that is extremely clear. I remember about three punches Calzaghe landed cleanly...two straight lefts and I believe a right hook. those were his most effective punches all night. and a few hard, clean punches CAN mean more than a bunch of landed, but weaker punches.

I did NOT think Bernard won...I thought he lost by 1 or 2 rounds, which would equate as 1-3 points. Hopkins lost for the same reason I thought Winky Wright beat him, he got outworked.

[Sweet Pea 50]

Thread starter, listen closely. You make ****ing War and Peace type posts trying to explain your positions. You call me delusional, put words in my mouth, but try to come off as a "I'm an intellectual, and will not cow tow to the unwashed American masses" type of bull****. You're a NUTHUGGER. Plain, and simple. 1500 word essay's aren't going to change this. Quit trying to come off as some kind of ****ing martyr.