How Exactly Can Cotto Win?

[Vigilant3]

I don't have to assume anything. If you want to do research on it you can, it's not like it's a difficult concept to grasp.

[Addison]

I can already see that neither of you have answers for what I've already stated, so I'll be nice and let it go. You're a pretty easy study; you've been here a long time and if anyone comes up with a good point against yours you feel backed up and talk a lot of **** to try and bully them out of the conversation. It's a neat defense mechanism, pal, but you should try to not be so transparent.

Again, learn some physics and then argue with me me about looping vs. straight punches. I bet you didn't even finish high school, or maybe you just couldn't grasp the concepts of Grade 10 Science.

tyson: I find it extremely ironic that you would call me a brickhead, yet you associate yourself with this ****-talking, and extremely insecure half-wit.

Again, trying to dictate impression. YOU CAME IN THROWING INSULTS AT ME. You started right in with it - and you're trying to say that I need to talk ****?? **** OFF. You starting talking **** before I said one ****ing thing, *****. People can read you ****ing DOUCHEBAG LIAR.

You want to talk about physics?

The shortest distance between two points is always a straight line - in the SECOND DIMENSION, ******.

If Margarito has moved X amount of inches backwards and X amount of inches to the left or right, up or down he is now X + X + X = ? inches away from where he started. A looping punch is EFFECTIVELY closer to the point where Margarito ends up because of how he moves in time/space in the THIRD DIMENSION. You are an unveliebable IDIOT.

[Addison]

Margarito has a habit of bending down to his opponent's level, makes it easier for Cotto to get to him.

Not when he's avoiding punches he doesn't. That's why I said you're missing the point. The truth is Margarito uses his long frame extremely effectively. He's all over the place like a human Slinky. Sometimes he's 7 feet tall during the course of the fight, sometimes he's bending - and he's always bending to deliver punishment.

[Vigilant3]

You are still incorrect as a straight line is always the closest to the target. Meaning if Margarito is trying to avoid the punch, which isn't even what was mentioned in the first place (ie. you're grasping) it's a different concept as you are moving into the realm of probablity. What are the chances that you can predict the way that he is going to move, will he move right into your punch, etc. That's not physics, it's probability. Even in that case, a straight punch based on where you think he will end up closes the distance faster than a looping punch that may or may not hit depending on Magaritos movement.

But, as has already been established, Margarito is not a phenomenal defensive fighter by any means, so the point is moot.

What was being argued was who would be able to have hit priority between Margarito and Cotto, which would go to Cotto as the straight, crisp puncher. Unless you are trying to imply that Margarito is moving backwards and to the side as he is punching which would, in effect, make his looping punches become looping misses without any effort on Cotto's part.

Then again, your whole argument is all over the place and, as I've already pointed out, you're having a hard time forming coherent points. Maybe you should sleep it off and take another run at it tomorrow.

[Mr. Cool]

I see this fight ending with a Margarito uppercut putting Cotto on the canvas.
If Cotto gets up his corner will throw in the towel.
Cotto will then have nightmares about Antonio for the rest of his life.

[Vigilant3]

Oh right, I forgot to cap it off with: you dumbass *****. I can tell you're very mature by your seemingly inescapable need to cap all of your swear words as if to add emphasis. I remember doing that in the 8th grade.

[tyson]

I don't have to assume anything. If you want to do research on it you can, it's not like it's a difficult concept to grasp.

You don't have to, but you are still doing it.

You assume that Margarito is weak to the body. You assume that he will be weak to the body against Cotto.

Don't you think the poor man has a brain himself? Is it impossible that Margarito actually might prepare his body for an all out body assault?

That's what I would have done.

Margarito needs to look at two fights, the Malignaggi fight and the Mosley fight.

Both those fighters took away most of the bodywork from Cotto. They reduced him to a basic fighter. Malignaggi was just too weak.
Mosley was just too ******. And old. I was shocked at the performance of Mosley.

Sure, Cotto has something to do with it, but Mosley lost that fight all by himself.

It's evident that Cotto doesn't like being pushed back. He doesn't punch as good from his backfoot where he can't get the leverage he needs.
Expect Margarito to be a little more cautious than usual in the first 5 rounds, but after that he will start to break Cotto down.

Of course, this is my opinion, but the reasons for that is that Cotto will not be able to outmanouver a guy that much taller than himself.

Floyd couldn't get away from Castillo in a scenario like this. There's no way Cotto can avoid an even more intense fighter in Margarito. Cotto's best chance is actually in close IMO. But that is a chance only if he can conjur up a masterful defense in no time.

[Silencers]

Not when he's avoiding punches he doesn't. That's why I said you're missing the point. The truth is Margarito uses his long frame extremely effectively. He's all over the place like a human Slinky. Sometimes he's 7 feet tall during the course of the fight, sometimes he's bending - and he's always bending to deliver punishment.

We'll agree to disagree on this point because I don't believe that to be the case. I think he bends down because of bad technique and is open to getting hit when he does so.

[Mr. Cool]

You don't have to, but you are still doing it.

You assume that Margarito is weak to the body. You assume that he will be weak to the body against Cotto.

Don't you think the poor man has a brain himself? Is it impossible that Margarito actually might prepare his body for an all out body assault?

That's what I would have done.

Margarito needs to look at two fights, the Malignaggi fight and the Mosley fight.

Both those fighters took away most of the bodywork from Cotto. They reduced him to a basic fighter. Malignaggi was just too weak.
Mosley was just too ******. And old. I was shocked at the performance of Mosley.

Sure, Cotto has something to do with it, but Mosley lost that fight all by himself.

It's evident that Cotto doesn't like being pushed back. He doesn't punch as good from his backfoot where he can't get the leverage he needs.
Expect Margarito to be a little more cautious than usual in the first 5 rounds, but after that he will start to break Cotto down.

Of course, this is my opinion, but the reasons for that is that Cotto will not be able to outmanouver a guy that much taller than himself.

Floyd couldn't get away from Castillo in a scenario like this. There's no way Cotto can avoid an even more intense fighter in Margarito. Cotto's best chance is actually in close IMO. But that is a chance only if he can conjur up a masterful defense in no time.

Great minds think alike.

[Vigilant3]

You don't have to, but you are still doing it.

You assume that Margarito is weak to the body. You assume that he will be weak to the body against Cotto.

Don't you think the poor man has a brain himself? Is it impossible that Margarito actually might prepare his body for an all out body assault?

That's what I would have done.

Margarito needs to look at two fights, the Malignaggi fight and the Mosley fight.

Both those fighters took away most of the bodywork from Cotto. They reduced him to a basic fighter. Malignaggi was just too weak.
Mosley was just too ******. And old. I was shocked at the performance of Mosley.

Sure, Cotto has something to do with it, but Mosley lost that fight all by himself.

It's evident that Cotto doesn't like being pushed back. He doesn't punch as good from his backfoot where he can't get the leverage he needs.
Expect Margarito to be a little more cautious than usual in the first 5 rounds, but after that he will start to break Cotto down.

Of course, this is my opinion, but the reasons for that is that Cotto will not be able to outmanouver a guy that much taller than himself.

Floyd couldn't get away from Castillo in a scenario like this. There's no way Cotto can avoid an even more intense fighter in Margarito. Cotto's best chance is actually in close IMO. But that is a chance only if he can conjur up a masterful defense in no time.

It's possibly that Margarito will build up his body in preperation, rather, it's probable considering Cotto's rep and past fights. That said, I don't think Margarito is as capable as Mosley and Malignaggi and he wont be able to limit Cotto in the same way.

Also, and this is just opinion based on speculation (I thought you were referring to the physics before), but I think that Cotto will be stronger inside than Margarito, and he already has a better defense than Marg, so I think it's up to Antonio to prepare himself well and Cotto comes in with the advantage.

I'm not saying that Margarito can't win, but Cotto is coming in with the advantage.