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  • Originally posted by Vigilant3 View Post
    You are still incorrect as a straight line is always the closest to the target. Meaning if Margarito is trying to avoid the punch, which isn't even what was mentioned in the first place (ie. you're grasping) it's a different concept as you are moving into the realm of probablity. What are the chances that you can predict the way that he is going to move, will he move right into your punch, etc. That's not physics, it's probability. Even in that case, a straight punch based on where you think he will end up closes the distance faster than a looping punch that may or may not hit depending on Magaritos movement.

    But, as has already been established, Margarito is not a phenomenal defensive fighter by any means, so the point is moot.

    What was being argued was who would be able to have hit priority between Margarito and Cotto, which would go to Cotto as the straight, crisp puncher. Unless you are trying to imply that Margarito is moving backwards and to the side as he is punching which would, in effect, make his looping punches become looping misses without any effort on Cotto's part.

    Then again, your whole argument is all over the place and, as I've already pointed out, you're having a hard time forming coherent points. Maybe you should sleep it off and take another run at it tomorrow.
    I'm watching tape of Margarito RIGHT NOW, dumbass. I'm watching what I have described. LITERALLY. I'm watching 5'6 Lujan nail the **** out of Margarito with looping, arcing punches.

    What are you babbling about you ****ing moron? Probabilty? If a guy is a sucker for looping punches he's a sucker for looping punches. Because you don't know **** about Boxing you probaly didn't see the punch Bradley knocked Witter out with - no need to explain that.

    What are Boxing trainers? Cal-Tech? MIT?

    You are a ****ing ****** **** and you just got OWNED.

    Shut the **** up and sit down.

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    • Originally posted by Vigilant3 View Post
      Oh right, I forgot to cap it off with: you dumbass *****. I can tell you're very mature by your seemingly inescapable need to cap all of your swear words as if to add emphasis. I remember doing that in the 8th grade.
      Now the ****SUCKER who came in talking ****, cussing, throwing swear words and insults is crying about his own medicine..

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      • Ok, so you obviously don't understand the concept of probability, either. I'll try and keep the arguments simple with you from now on.

        No way you dumb ***** can't you see that this **** wouldn't go down that way homie g waffle ***** ass punk clown. Just cuz one punk ass ***** nails Margarito with looping punches doesnt mean he isn't easier to hit with straight punches, dumb piece of **** ***** ass. SIT DOWN even though you are already sitting down at the computer. Punk ass clown.

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        • Originally posted by tyson View Post
          You don't have to, but you are still doing it.

          You assume that Margarito is weak to the body. You assume that he will be weak to the body against Cotto.

          Don't you think the poor man has a brain himself? Is it impossible that Margarito actually might prepare his body for an all out body assault?

          That's what I would have done.

          Margarito needs to look at two fights, the Malignaggi fight and the Mosley fight.

          Both those fighters took away most of the bodywork from Cotto. They reduced him to a basic fighter. Malignaggi was just too weak.
          Mosley was just too ******. And old. I was shocked at the performance of Mosley.

          Sure, Cotto has something to do with it, but Mosley lost that fight all by himself.

          It's evident that Cotto doesn't like being pushed back. He doesn't punch as good from his backfoot where he can't get the leverage he needs.
          Expect Margarito to be a little more cautious than usual in the first 5 rounds, but after that he will start to break Cotto down.

          Of course, this is my opinion, but the reasons for that is that Cotto will not be able to outmanouver a guy that much taller than himself.

          Floyd couldn't get away from Castillo in a scenario like this. There's no way Cotto can avoid an even more intense fighter in Margarito. Cotto's best chance is actually in close IMO. But that is a chance only if he can conjur up a masterful defense in no time.
          Amen-Ra. Good ****.

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          • Originally posted by Vigilant3 View Post
            Ok, so you obviously don't understand the concept of probability, either. I'll try and keep the arguments simple with you from now on.

            No way you dumb ***** can't you see that this **** wouldn't go down that way homie g waffle ***** ass punk clown. Just cuz one punk ass ***** nails Margarito with looping punches doesnt mean he isn't easier to hit with straight punches, dumb piece of **** ***** ass. SIT DOWN even though you are already sitting down at the computer. Punk ass clown.
            Wow, this ***** is sensitive. Someone's feelings got hurt.

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            • Well that's weird because I was just imitating you. I guess that means you are sensitive and your feelings are hurt? Good show.

              "Self ownage" and all that. Thanks for coming out.

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              • Originally posted by Vigilant3 View Post
                Well that's weird because I was just imitating you. I guess that means you are sensitive and your feelings are hurt? Good show.

                "Self ownage" and all that. Thanks for coming out.
                PUNK *****, you lied half a dozen times, contradicted yourself half a dozen more. This was an ugly pathetic display and nobody appreciated it.

                This crying at the end is insult to injury. You had an agenda and it failed. It doesn't matter what fake ALT account you talk **** from, *****. All the hoping, dreaming, and planning will never prepare you for me. Ever.

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                • Originally posted by Vigilant3 View Post
                  It's possibly that Margarito will build up his body in preperation, rather, it's probable considering Cotto's rep and past fights. That said, I don't think Margarito is as capable as Mosley and Malignaggi and he wont be able to limit Cotto in the same way.

                  Also, and this is just opinion based on speculation (I thought you were referring to the physics before), but I think that Cotto will be stronger inside than Margarito, and he already has a better defense than Marg, so I think it's up to Antonio to prepare himself well and Cotto comes in with the advantage.

                  I'm not saying that Margarito can't win, but Cotto is coming in with the advantage.
                  Marg will probably not limit Cotto in the same way as those two guys for two reasons;
                  He doesn't clinch.
                  He is much taller.

                  But he will limit Cotto's offense with his own offense, and if it comes close and Cotto prove to be the stronger one on the inside, he can grab Cotto's left arm much the same way as Mosley did. If it turns to a wrestling match inside, I think Margarito will wear him down because he will put his weight on top of Cotto like Lewis did against Tyson, not push him back like Mosley and Malignaggi.

                  But from those fights, he can learn that Cotto were reduced simply by the fact that they stood their ground and pushed back while taking away that left hand.
                  Cotto covers his weak chin by keeping his chin tucked at all times, but that makes it difficult for him to get leverage behind headshots when in close.
                  Again, I think this favours Margarito.

                  Cotto is coming in with the advantage of momentum, appreciation, fan support and boxing ability.

                  But counter that with underdog, desire, last chance and something to prove and I think the advantages are not really advantages at all.

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                  • Good points. In the end there isn't much point to arguing anymore. We've made our points and while most are fitting (exluding a lot of things Addison has said because he's a ******) in reality it depends on what each boxer chooses to do on fight night, the shape they show up in and their gameplan.

                    Like I said I think it will end up as an inside battle and Cotto will prove to be the stronger overall fighter (inside) and take over, probably winning by knockout.

                    Addison are you done owning yourself? I would have thought someone as intelligent as you would have been able to identify when they were in a losing position, I guess I overestimated you.

                    Going to bed now, enjoy your crying etc. I still find it funny that you think I'm an alt of someone. Also, point out where I lied and contradicted myself (grasping again...lol) so I can refute them tomorrow. Lata clown.

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                    • Originally posted by Vigilant3 View Post
                      Good points. In the end there isn't much point to arguing anymore. We've made our points and while most are fitting (exluding a lot of things Addison has said because he's a ******) in reality it depends on what each boxer chooses to do on fight night, the shape they show up in and their gameplan.

                      Like I said I think it will end up as an inside battle and Cotto will prove to be the stronger overall fighter (inside) and take over, probably winning by knockout.

                      Addison are you done owning yourself? I would have thought someone as intelligent as you would have been able to identify when they were in a losing position, I guess I overestimated you.

                      Going to bed now, enjoy your crying etc. I still find it funny that you think I'm an alt of someone. Also, point out where I lied and contradicted myself (grasping again...lol) so I can refute them tomorrow. Lata clown.
                      Crushing your punk ass wasn't satsifying. Know that. I do this in my sleep.

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