Forget Kessler, Mundine Wants Kelly Pavlik

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  • Degsy
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    #61
    Is there anyone he hasn't upset in Oz??? Has he had a go at the Cricketers yet??? I heard he wanted to fight McGill, a thoroughly legitimate opponent going by some of his recent defenses!!! LOL

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      #62
      Someone suggested Mundine beats Miranda. I do not see anything in his game that suggests he would last with Miranda.

      What many people do not realize, is Miranda's very deceptive speed and reach. He can get his punches off rather quickly and his reach is probably longer than any Middle or Super Middleweight. He has very long wings, trust me on this. If you don't, look it up.

      Unless you are exceptional at it, trying to box him can be a big mistake. Pavlik went inside and attacked him for a reason, as you do not want to get caught by Miranda on the outside pulling back, or you'll get david banks'd.

      There is a reason why fighters do not line up to fight Miranda. As wild and unpolished as he is, the man is a beast in there.
      Last edited by deanrw; 05-13-2008, 12:15 PM.

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        #63
        Originally posted by deanrw
        Someone suggested Mundine beats Miranda. I do not see anything in his game that suggests he would last with Miranda.

        What many people do not realize, is Miranda's very deceptive speed and reach. He can get his punches off rather quickly and his reach is probably longer than any Middle or Super Middleweight. He has very long wings, trust me on this. If you don't, look it up.

        Unless you are exceptional at it, trying to box him can be a big mistake. Pavlik went inside and attacked him for a reason, as you do not want to get caught by Miranda on the outside pulling back, or you'll get david banks'd.

        There is a reason why fighters do not line up to fight Miranda. As wild and unpolished as he is, the man is a beast in there.
        Im not trying to sound like a nuthugger here.

        But Mundine has a lot more talent then Miranda. He will fight from the outside and pick him off all night. Miranda's power is also over rated, there is no top 10 fighter that he has knocked out. In fact i would go further to say Mundine has better one punch power. Although rather bias since i have only seen one of them fight/train. I will wait for Miranda to fight Abraham!

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          #64
          I couldnt see Mundine beating Pavs by any stretch of the imagination. A quicker jab doesnt mean Mundine will land it, he'll have to think of ways to get around Pavs reach. Also Pavlik has a punch that doesn't immediately turn your lights off, but his heavy hands drain the opponents strength and will with every punch. I think Kelly has faced much better opposition (Jermaine, Miranda). Don't ignore the facts either, Pavlik beat the man, who beat the man, Mundines biggest fight was a fight with a man (kessler) who would later lose to the man (calzaghe).

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            #65
            Originally posted by Ultimateboxa
            Im not trying to sound like a nuthugger here.

            But Mundine has a lot more talent then Miranda. He will fight from the outside and pick him off all night. Miranda's power is also over rated, there is no top 10 fighter that he has knocked out. In fact i would go further to say Mundine has better one punch power. Although rather bias since i have only seen one of them fight/train. I will wait for Miranda to fight Abraham!
            No Offense, but I highly doubt Mundine hits anywhere near as hard as Miranda.

            Miranda and Abraham are among the heaviest P4P hitters out there. They really can **** up your day with one punch. In fact, if they did not have a huge punch, neither of them would be where they are. They are not gifted athletes. Their punch power is their calling card.

            Miranda has a huge reach and it will never be easy to outbox him from the outside. He will wing that right hand over the top and get through. His reach is even quite a bit larger than Pavlik's.
            Last edited by deanrw; 05-13-2008, 09:16 PM.

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              #66
              Originally posted by deanrw
              No Offense, but I highly doubt Mundine hits anywhere near as hard as Miranda.

              Miranda and Abraham are among the heaviest P4P hitters out there. They really can **** up your day with one punch. In fact, if they did not have a huge punch, neither of them would be where they are. They are not gifted athletes. Their punch power is their calling card.

              Miranda has a huge reach and it will never be easy to outbox him from the outside. He will wing that right hand over the top and get through. His reach is even quite a bit larger than Pavlik's.
              No Mirandas power is all hype. US fall for it.

              Who has Miranda knocked out?

              He hasn't knocked out a guy even better than Soliman. I think Banks was his biggest KO win which is rediculous. The guy is not a massive puncher. If he was he would have unfied the division by now. There is one massive puncher in the division and thats Pavlik.


              Don't fall for all the Miranda strongest man in the world ****.

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                #67
                Originally posted by GlasJaw17
                I couldnt see Mundine beating Pavs by any stretch of the imagination. A quicker jab doesnt mean Mundine will land it, he'll have to think of ways to get around Pavs reach. Also Pavlik has a punch that doesn't immediately turn your lights off, but his heavy hands drain the opponents strength and will with every punch. I think Kelly has faced much better opposition (Jermaine, Miranda). Don't ignore the facts either, Pavlik beat the man, who beat the man, Mundines biggest fight was a fight with a man (kessler) who would later lose to the man (calzaghe).
                Mundines lateral movement and lead right will cause Pavlik all sorts of Problems.

                Judging his from his previous fights, is judging a book by its cover.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Ultimateboxa
                  No Mirandas power is all hype. US fall for it.

                  Who has Miranda knocked out?

                  He hasn't knocked out a guy even better than Soliman. I think Banks was his biggest KO win which is rediculous. The guy is not a massive puncher. If he was he would have unfied the division by now. There is one massive puncher in the division and thats Pavlik.


                  Don't fall for all the Miranda strongest man in the world ****.
                  Well I am not from the US. Pavlik cannot punch as hard as Miranda. Pavlik fought Miranda in the pocket to smother Miranda's power. There was a method to his madness and it paid off.

                  Pavlik is a hard puncher, but not a one punch guy.

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                  • CottoOverrated1
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                    #69
                    I love how these euro and aussie nutt riders back each other up. guys face it, your boxing is bush league when compared to the american scene except for the HWs. And the aussie cant eve claim a HW exceot for Tua maybe lol.

                    miranda did KO Howard Eastman for the first time in his career. He out Allen Green to school. Green might have even won that fight if he wasnt scared ****less of miranda's power. Miranda is world class yall. He is a damn good fighter. Mundine is sjust some chump from austrailia.

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                      #70
                      no relpy to my post on page 6 ay Ult??

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