Hatton Vs Judah : Crybaby Vs Baby

[sunny31]

judah is not mayweather! I think judah has a punchers chance, but judah is no where near as good on the inside, he would rock hatton defitnitely a few times, but he just doesn't have a good work rate and is not very consistent at all and gets flustered under pressure, hatton by close but ud

[QUISQUEYA]

He certainly ate a ****load of clean punches. The problem is though, to beat Floyd you've GOT to get inside, you'd be completely unable to beat him from the outside, so Ricky knew that in order to get to the inside, he'd have to eat some clean punches. His game plan, no doubt, would have been to use a lot of head-movement and footwork and jab his way to the inside by stepping to the side and creating angles. Unfortunately, he wasnt able to pull it off. Partially due to his own failings of coming forward with his head sticking out and taking a punch for his troubles, utilising poor footwork, no head-movement, without coming in with his jab and without having his defense raised...ever. Partially because Floyd is just ****ing good and he makes you fight worse than you normally do because of how well he has fought.

Ricky underestimated Floyd's pop. I know that RH expected to eat some punches - he said as much in several interviews. He also said that since he was able to walk through Tszyu's stuff, that he would be able to walk through Floyd's.

What he didn't account for was the accuracy/snap in FMJ's offense. If you watch the Tszyu fight, KT was never able to snap Ricky's head back or buckle his knees like Floyd was able to do.

I remember seeing this from 24/7, and i thought that Hatton was looking at it all wrong:

[the_godslayer]

Sorry Hatton can't take a punch and Judah has more power then Mayweather. Hatton gets K.O'd in the 5th

What a load of BS ... you actually ever seen any boxing?

Hatton would knock Judah the **** out!

Agreed 100%

I think Hatton handled Tszyu's power a little better than Judah did. Dohhhhh...

Indeed and at the time KT was rated the undisputed 140 if not p4p king.

Judah would KO Hatton in 30 seconds

Shouldnt really justify this idiocy with a reply but he is on a boxing forum not a fantasy forum FFS .... get a grip and start to think before you engage that dumbass mouth

I like how Hatton gets koed by Mayweather after eating constant clean punches, battering his head into a ring post and being completely worn down by an excellent fighter who can find shots from nowhere and all of a sudden that equates to Hatton being unable to take a punch. 40+ fights, many against heavy punchers where he has taken decent punishment throughout the fight and never knocked out up til the Floyd fight suggests to me that Hatton can take a punch fine.

So speaks someone who actually understands the sport, well said that man^

Yes. i understand what he meant by "lost it"...and I am dis*****g the people who see that as "the reason" that Hatton lost the fight.

Did Hatton land a single effective bodyshot in rounds 1 through 6?

This is where Joe Cortez ruined Hattons gameplan, yes Hatton was one dimensional and couldnt adjust after it became clear that Cortez may as well have had Owned By Golden Boy Productions tattood on his ****ing head, i swear in that fight he looked like he had been paid off. So IMO Cortez did not allow Hatton near enough to land an effective bodyshot and also IMO should be banned from being a ref for life.

judah is not mayweather! I think judah has a punchers chance, but judah is no where near as good on the inside, he would rock hatton defitnitely a few times, but he just doesn't have a good work rate and is not very consistent at all and gets flustered under pressure, hatton by close but ud

I agree he has a punchers chance and no more but for me its a Hatton KO inside 8.

[squealpiggy]

I'm puzzled by something: Hatton lost to the number one fighter in the world therefore he can be knocked out by Zab SUper Chicken Judah? Judah lost to Baldomir, not because Baldomir is good, not because he can punch, but because after four rounds he was still there.

Anyone who is still standing by the 4th can beat Judah.

[QUISQUEYA]

This is where Joe Cortez ruined Hattons gameplan, yes Hatton was one dimensional and couldnt adjust after it became clear that Cortez may as well have had Owned By Golden Boy Productions tattood on his ****ing head, i swear in that fight he looked like he had been paid off. So IMO Cortez did not allow Hatton near enough to land an effective bodyshot and also IMO should be banned from being a ref for life.

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But Oscar wanted Hatton to win. He said it loudly and often. Oscar was planning to fight Hatton next.

What is the possible scenario that has Cortez doing anything that would unfairly benefit Floyd? Help me here.

[QUISQUEYA]

I'm puzzled by something: Hatton lost to the number one fighter in the world therefore he can be knocked out by Zab SUper Chicken Judah? Judah lost to Baldomir, not because Baldomir is good, not because he can punch, but because after four rounds he was still there.

Anyone who is still standing by the 4th can beat Judah.

To be fair, Hatton didn't exactly look sizzling the last time he fought a slick southpaw welterweight. And he was hurt by a guy with a fraction of Zab's pop.

Is that a fair statement?

[.Mik.]

Ricky underestimated Floyd's pop. I know that RH expected to eat some punches - he said as much in several interviews. He also said that since he was able to walk through Tszyu's stuff, that he would be able to walk through Floyd's.

What he didn't account for was the accuracy/snap in FMJ's offense. If you watch the Tszyu fight, KT was never able to snap Ricky's head back or buckle his knees like Floyd was able to do.

I remember seeing this from 24/7, and i thought that Hatton was looking at it all wrong:

Yeah, I think thats a fair statement to make. I dont entirely blame him though, Floyd's 'pad work' was ridiculous. His trainer was hitting hit gloves with the pads. Hatton was just taking the piss. I dont think that he underestimated Floyd's power as much (though I'd say he certainly did underestimate his power) as his accuracy, inside work and ability to get off his punches in a short time span. Hatton said that he wouldnt stand in front of Floyd and take loads of punches, but its exactly what he did do. Again, partially because he fought a **** fight, partially because Floyd fought a good one.

[squealpiggy]

To be fair, Hatton didn't exactly look sizzling the last time he fought a slick southpaw welterweight. And he was hurt by a guy with a fraction of Zab's pop.

Is that a fair statement?

Hatton looked awful against Collazo but Collazo is a distance fighter. He stays in there no matter what. Judah falls apart when a guy is still coming on in the middle rounds. Zab considers himself a puncher, and loses heart somewhat if his punches fail for him. The fact that Collazo isn't means that he was still around when Fatton faded in the late rounds. And I call him "fatton" in this fight because he looked like dirt.

The Hatton that fought Floyd would potentially have stopped Collazo.

[ElGranLuchador]

judah cant beat any live opponents currently
hes stuck fighting bums forever and losing to the top guys

[QUISQUEYA]

The Hatton that fought Floyd would potentially have stopped Collazo.

Then...the Judah that fought Cotto would potentially have stopped Hatton. Right?