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  • QUISQUEYA
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    #61
    Originally posted by d0gg85
    exactly.


    whereas Fattons bodybag work is to prepare him for being able to stand flatfooted..... with little in the way of lateral movement..... in front of a stationary opponent..... and whale at his midsection indiscriminately for 3 minutes.

    something likely like that.
    With Hatton's good athleticism, I would have liked to see him with a real trainer. That Graham is shyte.

    Graham acts like he is impressed by everything that Hatton does in the gym. Instead of teaching.

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      #62
      Originally posted by Xplosivo

      i have neva liked that ****y son of a ***** called zab judah but hatton has no business with him at 147, at 140 he may beat him but at 147 judah eats him.
      I don't draw a distinction b/w JWW and WW. Because Hatton is bigger than Zab is. Regardless of what weight they fight at.

      Question: why are female volleyball players kinda hot, but female basketball players are generally gruesome?

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        #63


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        • Xplosivo
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          #64
          Originally posted by QUISQUEYA
          I don't draw a distinction b/w JWW and WW. Because Hatton is bigger than Zab is. Regardless of what weight they fight at.

          Question: why are female volleyball players kinda hot, but female basketball players are generally gruesome?
          fatton is not as effective at 147 as he is at 140, clearly at 140 he is a better fighter, at 147 he struggles whereas judah is a good fighter at both 140 and 147, its mainly because of their styles. the hatton that fought tszyu or castillo would beat judah at 140, the judah that fought mayweather or cotto would beat hatton at 147 and hurt him badly.

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            #65
            Originally posted by Xplosivo
            who punches harder collazo or judah? who is quicker collazo or judah?

            collazo nearly stopped hatton...hatton was in a wonderland
            Who was taller, Collazo or Judah? Who has a better chin, Collazo or Judah? Who has more knockouts at Welterweight and above, Collazo or Judah?

            And finally who won, Hatton or Collazo? x 3

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              #66
              Originally posted by Xplosivo
              fatton is not as effective at 147 as he is at 140, clearly at 140 he is a better fighter, at 147 he struggles whereas judah is a good fighter at both 140 and 147, its mainly because of their styles. the hatton that fought tszyu or castillo would beat judah at 140, the judah that fought mayweather or cotto would beat hatton at 147 and hurt him badly.
              I don't think it is the weight Hatton fought at. I think it is the opponents.

              Would "Undefeated" have gone any differently if both guys made the 140 limit instead of 147?

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                #67
                Originally posted by squealpiggy
                Who was taller, Collazo or Judah? Who has a better chin, Collazo or Judah? Who has more knockouts at Welterweight and above, Collazo or Judah?

                And finally who won, Hatton or Collazo? x 3
                who was taller collazo or mayweather? did it matter? Who has collazo fought that would even make you think that he has a better chin? a shot Mosley knocked him down and hurt him something that hatton couldnt do which again tells us he has no business at 147 Collazo has had more fights at welterweight or above but still has less knockouts than judah

                collazo fights at welterweight or above (any weight above 140):

                28 wins
                13 KO's

                judah fights at welterweight or above (any weight above 140):

                20 wins
                14 KO's



                hatton should be thanking the judges that they scored that fight for him Many fans questioned the decision, and thought Collazo won the fight. owned x 5
                Last edited by Xplosivo; 05-10-2008, 11:51 AM.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by QUISQUEYA
                  I don't think it is the weight Hatton fought at. I think it is the opponents.

                  Would "Undefeated" have gone any differently if both guys made the 140 limit instead of 147?
                  hatton would beat anyone at 140 not named floyd mayweather whoever disagrees is a certified hater we dont need to be biased here lets be equally fair to both. yes i think at 140 where cotto didnt look too great and got hurt against lesser fighters would lose to hatton too because hatton thats where hatton is at his best and cotto is not, at 147 cotto ****s hatton

                  go on and discredit the wins against kostya and castillo or make excuses but hatton at 140 is hard to beat because he is 100% at that weight

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Xplosivo
                    who was taller collazo or mayweather? did it matter? Who has collazo fought that would even make you think that he has a better chin? a shot Mosley knocked him down and hurt him something that hatton couldnt do which again tells us he has no business at 147 Collazo has had more fights at welterweight and above than judah thats why he has more knockouts but judah still has the better knockout percentage

                    hatton should be thanking the judges that they scored that fight for him Many fans questioned the decision, and thought Collazo won the fight. owned x 5
                    Hatton knocked Collazo down and had him hurt early on. Collazo has never done the chicken dance after being caught flush. Judah has a better knockout percentage eh? Collazo has 13 knockout wins in 31 fights at Welter and above putting his knockout percentage at 42%. Zab Judah has 3 knockout wins in 11 fights at Welter and above for a percentage of 28%.



                    The only way that Judah can be described as having the better knockout percentage at Welterweight is if you don't count his four losses and a no contest among his fights in which case he has a 50% KO percentage which is still pretty pathetic for a supposed puncher. Of course his no contest really should have been a TKO win putting his actual KO win percentage at 37% if you count his losses and at a respectable 66% if you don't. Mind you considering that one of his decision wins is against 22-12-2 Edwin Vasquez and another is against 20-8 Ryan Davis it's still not doing to well.

                    Actually the more we examine this the more you find holes in your argument. I'd be willing to bet that Collazo would beat Judah, maybe we'll find out after Mosley has smashed him up.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Xplosivo
                      hatton would beat anyone at 140 not named floyd mayweather whoever disagrees is a certified hater we dont need to be biased here lets be equally fair to both. yes i think at 140 where cotto didnt look too great and got hurt against lesser fighters would lose to hatton too because hatton thats where hatton is at his best and cotto is not, at 147 cotto ****s hatton

                      go on and discredit the wins against kostya and castillo or make excuses but hatton at 140 is hard to beat because he is 100% at that weight
                      I would suggest that you be more open to conflicting opinions. That is why we are here.

                      I'm sorry but we do not know exactly how good Hatton is/was at 140 because he didn't exactly fight the best guys. Just like we can say the same thing about Mayweather at 147. For a long time, Hatton bore the "overprotected" label. And the first time he fought a top-notch guy, he got dominated.

                      Now he's fighting Lazcano. That is unconvincing. A Malignaggi follow-up may tell us more. Hatton's #8 p4p ranking is probably too high.

                      I don't think anyone will "make excuses" about Tszyu or Castillo. I believe their post-Hatton record speaks for itself.

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