Sam Peter vs. Vitali Klitschko Deal is Reached

[edgarg]

I honestly couldn't give a **** about Sam Peter. This fight represents more time wasted before there is a real heavyweight champion. By the way if Lennox Lewis came out of retirement would you support him having an automatic shot at the WBC title? After all not only did he retire as champion, he also defended the title against legitimate contenders.

This emeritus bull**** sums it up about the green strap for me. It's bad enough Floyd Mayweather getting it, but at least Floyd went after the WBC title in six division. At least Floyd put forth effort in support of the brand. Three WBC fights of which one was a loss, one was a vacant title and one was against Danny "OMFG" Williams only hurts the WBC at heavyweight. Klitschko's stain on the title looked like it could have been wiped away somewhat by Sam Peter who is a hard worker who came up the tough way despite his limitations but no, I guess that retiring repeatedly in order to avoid fighting Hasim Rahman is exactly what the WBC is looking for in a spokesperson.

You picked yourself a really good name, fully descriptive of your output.

[edgarg]

It stinks that the WBC has seen fit to give this guy an automatic title shot. Absolutely stinks. How did he earn it? Winning a vacant title through Corrie Sanders, beating Danny Williams and losing to Lennox Lewis is hardly Emeritus material, THINK Sulaiman, THINK!

Weeell.... you see my little piggy............. Klitschko has lost only TWICE, both times to World champions, and through injury whilst well ahead in BOTH fights.

Then.....he's an extremely accurate puncher. Look at ANY of his fights.

AND.....LEST WE FORGET.......of his 35 victories, only ONE made it to the finishing line. This means, (so that you understand,) 34 KO's in 35 fights. The very best heavyweight record of KO's of ALL time. Somewhere around 96-97%. If he's fit enough to move around he'l beat up Peter. The only problem I see (other than injury) is that he may not be "battle-hardened".

Presto !!

[Jim Jeffries]

I really hope this fight happens, and that Vitali comes in at least 60%, that's all he needs against Peter.

[MANGLER]

If Vitali was 100% he'd destroy Peter and beat him worse than Wlad did, but he's too damn fragile and has been gone for too long. I don't think he's got enough left to win it.

[squealpiggy]

Weeell.... you see my little piggy............. Klitschko has lost only TWICE, both times to World champions, and through injury whilst well ahead in BOTH fights.

Then.....he's an extremely accurate puncher. Look at ANY of his fights.

AND.....LEST WE FORGET.......of his 35 victories, only ONE made it to the finishing line. This means, (so that you understand,) 34 KO's in 35 fights. The very best heavyweight record of KO's of ALL time. Somewhere around 96-97%. If he's fit enough to move around he'l beat up Peter. The only problem I see (other than injury) is that he may not be "battle-hardened".

Presto !!

You picked a great name for yourself because it doesn't make any ****ing sense.

Let me spell it out in simpler terms: The WBC has given a special status to Vitali Klitschko. The emeritus thing is not automatically bestowed on retiring champions. It is chosen by the sanctioning body itself presumably on the basis of merit. So Vitali has been chosen by the WBC for special treatment giving him the right to retire for, what is it now, four years? and then return for an automatic title shot. This is completely counterintuitive at the best of times, but what makes this move even more egregious is the opponent. Let me break it down:

1. Champion retires while training for a mandatory defense
2. Stays retired for four years
3. Announces a comeback and is awarded an automatic title fight with no eliminator
4. The current champion is a guy who was ****ed over by the WBC before he even got an eliminator and despite winning the eliminator he then had to fight to get an unjustified rematch before he got his title shot
5. Vitali's record in WBC fights is 2-1. One of those fights was for a vacant title and one was against Danny Williams, a man who has no business anywhere near a world title fight.

As I mentioned granting a special status to certain fighters is counterintuitive, but at least in the case of Floyd Mayweather he has campaigned largely to win the WBC belts, is unbeaten and has won an astonishing 17 WBC title fights. How come Lennox isn't Emeritus champion? He may have won the vacant title from Oliver McCall, but he has successfully defended the title 11 times, lost one and won the title back from the guy who beat him. Who is better in WBC fights, Lennox Lewis 14-1 (including the vacant title win) or Vitali Klitscko 2-1?

[edgarg]

You picked a great name for yourself because it doesn't make any ****ing sense.

Let me spell it out in simpler terms: The WBC has given a special status to Vitali Klitschko. The emeritus thing is not automatically bestowed on retiring champions. It is chosen by the sanctioning body itself presumably on the basis of merit. So Vitali has been chosen by the WBC for special treatment giving him the right to retire for, what is it now, four years? and then return for an automatic title shot. This is completely counterintuitive at the best of times, but what makes this move even more egregious is the opponent. Let me break it down:

1. Champion retires while training for a mandatory defense
2. Stays retired for four years
3. Announces a comeback and is awarded an automatic title fight with no eliminator
4. The current champion is a guy who was ****ed over by the WBC before he even got an eliminator and despite winning the eliminator he then had to fight to get an unjustified rematch before he got his title shot
5. Vitali's record in WBC fights is 2-1. One of those fights was for a vacant title and one was against Danny Williams, a man who has no business anywhere near a world title fight.

As I mentioned granting a special status to certain fighters is counterintuitive, but at least in the case of Floyd Mayweather he has campaigned largely to win the WBC belts, is unbeaten and has won an astonishing 17 WBC title fights. How come Lennox isn't Emeritus champion? He may have won the vacant title from Oliver McCall, but he has successfully defended the title 11 times, lost one and won the title back from the guy who beat him. Who is better in WBC fights, Lennox Lewis 14-1 (including the vacant title win) or Vitali Klitscko 2-1?

My name "Edgar G." makes sense to ME....as well as to others with intelligence, who normally call me "Edgar" in posts.

Klitschko announced early last January that he's been working out for the past "6 weeks".

He retired in November 2005, just before his Rahman fight, by the time of which, and until his accident, he was fully fit and ready to go. It was an unconcealed opinion by nearly everyone in boxing that what he would commit on Rahman would be either murder or manslaughter.

So, according to MY ignorant calculations, he has been retired just over 2 years, NOT 4.

The title of "Emeritus" was bestowed on him in gratitude for the honour and dignity which he'd brought to the WBC. This is what Suleiman said anyway, and you can look it up. I've read it more than once, so it's there, if you look.
I think (only think) that part of the reason was that rather than hold up the title with protracted legal manouvres, and for the very honourable thing he did by not strapping himself up and hobbling into the ring for a couple of minutes, then conceding, taking his $8 mill on the way out. All this showed an selflessness and an honourable man. In fact, it's on RECORD that when urged to do just that, Klitschko said that his "honour and dignity means more me than $8 million dollars".............So the "Emeritus" thing is understandable.

My opinion of the difference between Lewis and/or Klitschko being awarded an Emeritus title is..........that Lewis messed the whole boxing world around for nearly a year after his fight with Klitschko. he did EVERYTHING he could, and placed all sorts of obstacles in the way of the return fight. If you want to know what they were, just ask...... Then he ignominiously retired, clearly chased away by Klitschko. He also badmouthed both Klitschko's every chance he got, even voluntarily phoning them to give them tips how to beat the guys of whom HE said..."I'll eat one of them for breakfast, and the other for lunch"........ it seems he got indigestion from the "breakfast" one.

THEN, as a contrast to Lewis, Klitschko's retirement was immediate, as soon as the medical opinion came in that it would be at least 6 months or more for recovery. Also he was a Champion with a top record, eight in the middle of his career, with no real opponent with a chance to beat him, and with the obvious inference of a return to boxing if and when he recovered.

What more can I say???

[Ray*]

My name "Edgar G." makes sense to ME....as well as to others with intelligence, who normally call me "Edgar" in posts.

Klitschko announced early last January that he's been working out for the past "6 weeks".

He retired in November 2005, just before his Rahman fight, by the time of which, and until his accident, he was fully fit and ready to go. It was an unconcealed opinion by nearly everyone in boxing that what he would commit on Rahman would be either murder or manslaughter.

So, according to MY ignorant calculations, he has been retired just over 2 years, NOT 4.

The title of "Emeritus" was bestowed on him in gratitude for the honour and dignity which he'd brought to the WBC. This is what Suleiman said anyway, and you can look it up. I've read it more than once, so it's there, if you look.
I think (only think) that part of the reason was that rather than hold up the title with protracted legal manouvres, and for the very honourable thing he did by not strapping himself up and hobbling into the ring for a couple of minutes, then conceding, taking his $8 mill on the way out. All this showed an selflessness and an honourable man. In fact, it's on RECORD that when urged to do just that, Klitschko said that his "honour and dignity means more me than $8 million dollars".............So the "Emeritus" thing is understandable.

My opinion of the difference between Lewis and/or Klitschko being awarded an Emeritus title is..........that Lewis messed the whole boxing world around for nearly a year after his fight with Klitschko. he did EVERYTHING he could, and placed all sorts of obstacles in the way of the return fight. If you want to know what they were, just ask...... Then he ignominiously retired, clearly chased away by Klitschko. He also badmouthed both Klitschko's every chance he got, even voluntarily phoning them to give them tips how to beat the guys of whom HE said..."I'll eat one of them for breakfast, and the other for lunch"........ it seems he got indigestion from the "breakfast" one.

THEN, as a contrast to Lewis, Klitschko's retirement was immediate, as soon as the medical opinion came in that it would be at least 6 months or more for recovery. Also he was a Champion with a top record, eight in the middle of his career, with no real opponent with a chance to beat him, and with the obvious inference of a return to boxing if and when he recovered.

What more can I say???

And what Honour did Vitali who i actually liked brought to the WBC if i may ask? squealpiggy is absolutely right Vitali did ****all for the WBC and to be awarded a ****** emeritius status(Automatic shot) at the title is a f**king disgrace. It doesnt matter if he didnt lose his title in the ring..the fact that he retired and wouldnt defend his title 4 times against Rahman should have got him thrown out.

[Hitman932]

And what Honour did Vitali who i actually liked brought to the WBC if i may ask? squealpiggy is absolutely right Vitali did ****all for the WBC and to be awarded a ****** emeritius status(Automatic shot) at the title is a f**king disgrace. It doesnt matter if he didnt lose his title in the ring..the fact that he retired and wouldnt defend his title 4 times against Rahman should have got him thrown out.

id say it was pretty good foresight on the part of sulaiman

he knew that three years down the road vitali klitschko would still whoop the ass of whoever might come to hold the WBC belt, sam peter is a **** for brains big mouth, of course the WBC wants Vitali to have and win this fight, it's business

[edgarg]

And what Honour did Vitali who i actually liked brought to the WBC if i may ask? squealpiggy is absolutely right Vitali did ****all for the WBC and to be awarded a ****** emeritius status(Automatic shot) at the title is a f**king disgrace. It doesnt matter if he didnt lose his title in the ring..the fact that he retired and wouldnt defend his title 4 times against Rahman should have got him thrown out.

All I know about it is what I included in my letter. Klitschko actually DID what I related, and Suleiman actually SAID what I repeated. It's all there if you just want to look for it.

Perhaps the work that both brothers have been doing for deprived children all over the world, the massive amounts of charity that they both GIVE and generate others in to giving, might also have something to do with it. No one ordered them to do it. They've been the deserving recipients of admiration and gratitude from millions everywhere. They are both modest, and respectful of all, a terrific sports example to young people growing up today, different from the usual examples.

Whatever the reason, the WBC believed that, although rarely bestowed, it was correct, that VK was a credit both to boxing and to the WBC. And so do many.

What more can one say?

[edgarg]

And what Honour did Vitali who i actually liked brought to the WBC if i may ask? squealpiggy is absolutely right Vitali did ****all for the WBC and to be awarded a ****** emeritius status(Automatic shot) at the title is a f**king disgrace. It doesnt matter if he didnt lose his title in the ring..the fact that he retired and wouldnt defend his title 4 times against Rahman should have got him thrown out.

Maybe the fact that VK (with his brother) have been donating massive cash to childrens charities all around the world,as well as generating others to do the same. No one ordered them to do it. They are admired by millions, purely because of their philantropism. At their level, this is usually done by multi-billionaires, or tycoons looking for something to do AFTER retirement, to improve their image. Thses guys started very early.

And, I don't believe that the title of "Emeritus" automatically bestows the right to be the immediate challenger. It gives him the right to hold his previous position in an "honorary" capacity only. I believe that the extra right to be the immediate challenger ( if he un-retired) was also made part of the ceremony.

Correct me if I'm wrong, I may be.