The ONLY reason OSCARS JAB worked against FLOYD is because...

[!! Shawn]

How can you ever say throwing an effective counterpunch is a bad idea?

Just as soon as Oscar is able to make an adjustment, a counter adjustment can be made to work against that.

It also might have made him a little more cautious to throw the jab if he did catch a big counter off of it.

A right hand over the jab is not an effective counter punch. A jab down the middle is the counter for a right hand. You do not get full leverage on that right hand, and you are on the outside with no access to the chin.

At best you can catch a glancing blow the the head. Not to mention, you are going to eat a jab flush on the face in the process.

Now if it was a catch the jab and counter down the middle, with a right hand it might be different, but you are talking about countering over the top. Either way, not a good idea with a jab like Oscars.

[Fox McCloud]

A right hand over the jab is not an effective counter punch. A jab down the middle is the counter for a right hand. You do not get full leverage on that right hand, and you are on the outside with no access to the chin.

At best you can catch a glancing blow the the head. Not to mention, you are going to eat a jab flush on the face in the process.

Now if it was a catch the jab and counter down the middle, with a right hand it might be different, but you are talking about countering over the top. Either way, not a good idea with a jab like Oscars.

I honestly do feel like I am a dwarf of boxing knowledge next to you, but...

What about the right handed counter that Mayweather stopped N'dou with? That was a right hand counter over the jab, am I right?

Or tell me what faulty connection I am making.

[Kball15]

WHY DO YOU THINK HE USED IT SO RARELY?!?!?!

Lol guys, did u actually buy that "it wasnt the night for the jab" bull****??? LOL.

He has a fine jab, im not saying he doesnt, but Floyd is more then good enough to find multiple ways around it. It only looked effective cause He used it like 4 times the whole fight

[!! Shawn]

I honestly do feel like I am a dwarf of boxing knowledge next to you, but...

What about the right handed counter that Mayweather stopped N'dou with? That was a right hand counter over the jab, am I right?

Or tell me what faulty connection I am making.

Two things, first that was N'dou fault, he left himself open for that. Second, that was not a right hand counter over the top. That was strait down the middle after N'dou dropped his hand.



Had that been Oscar, and there was second jab behind that, Floyd would not have been a happy camper.

Also, N'dou does not have the best jabbing technique. You are suppose to bring your shoulder up and cover your chin when you jab. Simply doing that virtually eliminates the usefulness of that right hand counter. Also, a double jab nullifies it.

Coming forward into one of Oscars jabs with your chin hanging out in the air is a recipe for a knockdown. Possible a knock out of you get stunned and Oscar hooks off the jab.

[letsgobrady]

HE USED IT SO RARELY!!!!

FLOYD was never expecting it. I want to see floyd lose as badly as most of the rest of us, but Oscar is not the man to do it.

If somehow someway Oscars jab works and is able to outbox floyd, Floyd can start coming forward and box coming forward, OR worst comes to worst he can make in a in-fight and outclass DLH there which he ABSOLUTELY could do. He has much better in skills then DLH does at this point.

There just isnt a scenario where DLH could win, and because of that, i think Floyd goes into the ring this time, sees his own dad in his opponents corner, comes out with something to prove and stops DLH in the late rounds with a counter right hand with a follow up

i completly agree

[letsgobrady]

WHY DO YOU THINK HE USED IT SO RARELY?!?!?!

Lol guys, did u actually buy that "it wasnt the night for the jab" bull****??? LOL.

He has a fine jab, im not saying he doesnt, but Floyd is more then good enough to find multiple ways around it. It only looked effective cause He used it like 4 times the whole fight

i agree with you.if oscar would of used the jab more floyd would of countered it or found a way around it the only reason it worked was because he barly used it

[!! Shawn]

WHY DO YOU THINK HE USED IT SO RARELY?!?!?!

Lol guys, did u actually buy that "it wasnt the night for the jab" bull****??? LOL.

He has a fine jab, im not saying he doesnt, but Floyd is more then good enough to find multiple ways around it. It only looked effective cause He used it like 4 times the whole fight

I already said, he didn't use it because it was not in the game plan. I have a nagging su****ion that Freddy did not train Oscar to use the jab in this fight.

[brooklyn kid]

Freddie roach told him to throw the jab all night oscar just wouldnt do it

[supermandathoe]

HE USED IT SO RARELY!!!!

FLOYD was never expecting it. I want to see floyd lose as badly as most of the rest of us, but Oscar is not the man to do it.

If somehow someway Oscars jab works and is able to outbox floyd, Floyd can start coming forward and box coming forward, OR worst comes to worst he can make in a in-fight and outclass DLH there which he ABSOLUTELY could do. He has much better in skills then DLH does at this point.

There just isnt a scenario where DLH could win, and because of that, i think Floyd goes into the ring this time, sees his own dad in his opponents corner, comes out with something to prove and stops DLH in the late rounds with a counter right hand with a follow up

With that one statement I'll never pay attention to what you say on this subject ever. That being said I will pay attention to other subjects.

[supermandathoe]

A right hand over the jab is not an effective counter punch. A jab down the middle is the counter for a right hand. You do not get full leverage on that right hand, and you are on the outside with no access to the chin.

At best you can catch a glancing blow the the head. Not to mention, you are going to eat a jab flush on the face in the process.

Now if it was a catch the jab and counter down the middle, with a right hand it might be different, but you are talking about countering over the top. Either way, not a good idea with a jab like Oscars.

He doesn't have to throw the right right over the jab. He can effectively negate the jab by turning into it or even parrying it if it come to the middle or ****.......some head movement if it comes up top. If he slips it he can counter with a right and he can do the same if he parry's it. Floyd would much rather slip it though, he can catch Oscar in bad positions while he punches, his counter right hands on the ropes are excellent proof of that.