***De La Hoya V. Forbes AND De Le Hoya V. Mayweather***

[frankpaganini]

Dont worry Frank there are people who aren't idiots on this site that see what actually happened tonight like you did.

I did hit the back of my head today but i KNEW i wasnt crazy or suffering from a concussion.

Thanks for realizing reality.

[frankpaganini]

I got all my points on Floyd..wich will be alot by Septemeber..that fight is a lock.....

Foyd will never lose to ODH no mater what Oscar does.

im not saying its certain oscar will beyond reasonable doubt beat floyd.

im saying its going to be close; close as last time; YOU said oscar would get tko/ko'd or lose all 12 rounds to floyd and i said that wouldnt happen...

unless floyd was 28 and oscar was 50;

[j_mac979]

I think oscar looked solid and much more comfortable in the ring he needed a tune up before his last pbf fight but he didnt its cool to have an opinion but to go to every thread trying to push it on somebody who has a different one is ******. Floyd will still wins with his YAWN filled style but oscar did look better cant take it away from him.

[Burner]

im not saying its certain oscar will beyond reasonable doubt beat floyd.

im saying its going to be close; close as last time; YOU said oscar would get tko/ko'd or lose all 12 rounds to floyd and i said that wouldnt happen...

unless floyd was 28 and oscar was 50;

Im sorry..I just seen nothing from Oscar today.

[frankpaganini]

I think oscar looked solid and much more comfortable in the ring he needed a tune up before his last pbf fight but he didnt its cool to have an opinion but to go to every thread trying to push it on somebody who has a different one is ******. Floyd will still wins with his YAWN filled style but oscar did look better cant take it away from him.

good solid post.

but i will argue with anyone that says oscar doesnt have just as much of a chance in the rematch as he did in the first fight.

Like i said; true; it was forbes; and oscar hadnt fought since about a year ago...

but none the less; his stamina is there (a key ingredient to his mayweather loss) and he's got floyd sr; i think floyd can beat him...but i also think oscar has all the tools in place (besides maybe age) to take back that welterweight title back in his posession.

many are arguing he doesnt have the ability or tools anymore to do it and i firmly disagree.

[NachoMan]

I cant even guage what Oscar did......If I wanted to watch Oscar practice I wpould watch him on the mits or hitting the bag..this fight only showed me that Oscar is easy to hit...he cant land his money punch any more(the left hook)..he didnt hit Floyd or Forbes with it....hes not very accurate....he wastes energy on pointless flurries...he has no foot movement....or head movement....and dare I say NO power anymore..

Floyd is on another planet then a 36 year old Oscar right now....Floyd will either TKO oscar or win every round wide.

[frankpaganini]

thats what i said;

if anyone is seriously crazy enough to believe it i'd bet major points on it.

there is NO WAY floyd wins all 12 rounds...

none

at all

whatsoever

EVER...

[j_mac979]

good solid post.

but i will argue with anyone that says oscar doesnt have just as much of a chance in the rematch as he did in the first fight.

Like i said; true; it was forbes; and oscar hadnt fought since about a year ago...

but none the less; his stamina is there (a key ingredient to his mayweather loss) and he's got floyd sr; i think floyd can beat him...but i also think oscar has all the tools in place (besides maybe age) to take back that welterweight title back in his posession.

many are arguing he doesnt have the ability or tools anymore to do it and i firmly disagree.

I looked at my post after i was done and wasnt that satisfied i think oscar has a chance but only if he can make floyd engage wich i dont see happening in wich comes my first point that floyd wins with his YAWN filled style lol

[Feint]

Oscar did look solid...not exactly oscar of 10 years ago; but definately improved.

I agree. De La Hoya is not what he once was but I would say he looked good against a solid opponent. I am looking forward to the Mayweather fight and even though he will definitely still be the underdog, I think it would not be unthinkable for him to pullout a victory.

[frankpaganini]

I agree. De La Hoya is not what he once was but I would say he looked good against a solid opponent. I am looking forward to the Mayweather fight and even though he will definitely still be the underdog, I think it would not be unthinkable for him to pullout a victory.

exactly...

other than age; oscar has ALL the tools in place he could have (like i just said; except age) to beat mayweather.

I think he has a bit of a better chance to beat floyd this time.

i think bringing back floyd sr; and showing he can last (stamina wise) he has a good chance; he also has to keep his jab going like he did for the first half of the mayweather fight...

on my scorecard he basically (besides maybe around or two) was winning when he was using the jab.