US Boxing Bias - Worst In The World?

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  • Ryn0
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    #131
    Originally posted by chiyoko
    Apart from Witter and Haye I don think there are any boxers to talk about from the UK.All the talk about UK boxers is just national pride.

    Honestly I dont understand how many UK fans gave Ricky Hatton a chance against Mayweather to the extent of saying Ricky was a pound for pound best fighter.Same thing with Joe's padded record,
    I can't take anything seriously from a guy who think Mayweather was better than SRR. Robinson was dropped 10 times most were in the latter part of his career and he fought 3 times as much as Mayweather.

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    • S A M U R A I
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      #132
      Originally posted by Ryno113
      I can't take anything seriously from a guy who think Mayweather was better than SRR. Robinson was dropped 10 times most were in the latter part of his career and he fought 3 times as much as Mayweather.
      Not trying to be a smartass, but SRR had 163 fights more than Floyd. More than 5 times as many.



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      • Mizzou
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        #133
        Originally posted by Pullcounter
        Americans don't respect non US fighters (excluding Mexicans, Cubans, and Puerto Ricans) because they pad their records in their home countries.
        Overall this is true. And for the most part I agree.

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        • bsrizpac
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          #134
          Originally posted by F-R-K-O
          Right.

          You can't say from a fantasy matchup that fighter X would beat fighter Y. Two years ago Joe gave an absolute masterclass boxing lesson to Lacy. And before you say anything, NO, I am not comparing Lacy to Hops, but I think Joe would have given ANYONE problems at that point. Who's to say Joe wouldn't have smacked Hopkins all over the ring?

          There is no way you can ever be certain in boxing, and if you could, we'd all be millionaires.
          I can say I thought Calz BARELY beat Hopkins now. And that's only if adopt amateur scoring rules so that all of this "activity" he had meant something. Hopkins activity has dropped off big time in two years. 2 years ago for Calz he was beating up a punching bag in Lacy. I see very little difference or decline in Joe from there to here. It's the same stuff, just one fight he had a punching bag, the other a legit opponent.

          But please don't allow any these facts to sway your opinion...keep on keepin on.....

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          • bigneli
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            #135
            Originally posted by Addison
            People outside the US underestimate the ego of the American people. When you think of yourself as being a god among citizens you don't need to be nationalist. There's no need for it. Americans are too self absorbed to care about an American fighter winning. They already think they're better than everybody at everything. One match means nothing.
            Strong statement, but too general in my opinion. But there is definitely a lot of arrogance mixed with ignorance, so I guess I partially agree with your statement.

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              #136
              Originally posted by bsrizpac
              I can say I thought Calz BARELY beat Hopkins now.
              Opinion

              Originally posted by bsrizpac
              And that's only if adopt amateur scoring rules so that all of this "activity" he had meant something.
              Opinion

              Originally posted by bsrizpac
              Hopkins activity has dropped off big time in two years.
              Two years ago Hopkins threw 343 against Tarver. He threw 375 against Calzaghe. Therefore you are factually incorrect.

              Originally posted by bsrizpac
              2 years ago for Calz he was beating up a punching bag in Lacy. I see very little difference or decline in Joe from there to here. It's the same stuff, just one fight he had a punching bag, the other a legit opponent.
              This is all opinion as well.

              Originally posted by bsrizpac
              But please don't allow any these facts to sway your opinion...
              What facts?

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              • Addison
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                #137
                Originally posted by bigneli
                Strong statement, but too general in my opinion. But there is definitely a lot of arrogance mixed with ignorance, so I guess I partially agree with your statement.
                General? Yeah, when you're talking about 300 million in a pool of billions generalities are it, Oppenheimer. And where do you hail?

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                • bigneli
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                  #138
                  Originally posted by Addison
                  General? Yeah, when you're talking about 300 million in a pool of billions generalities are it, Oppenheimer. And where do you hail?
                  Like I tried to say there is a lot of arrogance and ignorance mixed together, I see that. But when you talk about great ego and believing to be a God among other citizens, many people from different nationalities fit in that description. Oppenheimer? Wow, some will take it as an insult or a complement, depends on politics.

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