Calzaghe vs Pavlik

[x-PeROxiDE-x]

i think that calzaghes experience and hand speed would be too much for pavlik RIGHT NOW if they were to fight, but i think, as i have also stated, that i think pavlik would be ready enough experience wise after fighting 3 or 4 more times on the world level.

i do believe that pavlik can beat joe, just not right now, not immediately. i think that it would be a big test for pavlik, and i think that range would play a big part in a match up between the two. if pavlik could stay all the way out of joes range when he's firing off shots or come all the way in, i think that pavlik would do just fine against calzaghe, but if he were to pull the fatal mistake which the majority of fighters who have fought calzaghe, minus hopkins, by staying in calzaghes range while he's teeing off, well that wouldn't be too wise and i would say that pavlik would lose by decision.

this would be a fight where calzaghe could make mistake after mistake and still win the fight, where as pavlik would basically have to fight the prefect fight and stick to his game plan and follow it through completely, which is pavliks strong point........

i say that pavlik fights 3 or 4 more fights before he fights calzaghe, to insure that we get a as even of a match up as we can. calzaghes experience especially after fighting hopkins, is way greater than that of kelly pavlik's but i think that pavliks overall package of a fighter is and would be solid enough to give calzaghe a run for his money and would make a hell of a fight.

as of right now, i would pick calzaghe over pavlik, but give it a handful of more fights for pavlik, provided that he wins, and i think pavlik could beat calzaghe.

one thing to note, that pavlik is going to see some of what joe does, by fighting lockett, who is trained by enzo calzaghe, i'm sure there are similarities in style, ring generalship, and mentality.........not a 100% but enough to give some insight on what joe might bring to the ring, i'm sure they watched the hopkins fight to see what they would be up against.........

Pavlik could be the best p4p fighter on the planet, unless he changes his style considerably he still gets whooped badly by Joe. As Monk said, they don't come much more tailor made.....

As for all the way out or all the way in, Calzaghe would tear Pavlik a new one on the inside. Pavlik needs to stay away but, being Pavlik, he won't, and he'll receive a beating because of it.

[sterling]

Everybody has made good posts as to why Pavlik would beat Joe, and as nice as is to see informed posters making good points, I have to disagree. Joe can load up on any given punch in a combination without warning. This unpredictability alone is enough to reduce Kelly's workrate somewhat, plus Joe is a wonderful counterpuncher. Joe will come forward and push Kelly back with his physical strength (it doesn't show in his punches, but Calzaghe is most definitely the stronger man). Pavlik would more than likely struggle to get off while going backwards, and would not be able to generate so much power in his punches. Joe also has one of the best chins in boxing today, don't be fooled by the Hopkins fight. Joe has stood up to people who punch easily as hard as Pavlik and emerged unscathed. Eubank landed some hard shots, as did Kessler and even Lacy landed one or two good shots that would have hurt lesser fighters. Kelly might be able to match Joe's workrate for the first half of the fight, but how many times has he worked at Joe's pace for the whole 12 rounds? I don't care how fit you are if you haven't had the rounds before you will struggle at the pace that Joe can sustain. I would say Joe gets the stoppage in the late rounds, but I'm not sure, so I got Joe by decision on this one.

Spot on great post.
This was a obvious hater attempt i been seeing this guy hate on calzaghe all day in alot of threads lol its obvious he knew that this thread is made like every week lol he just wanted to put down calzaghe and hope people voted pavlik to win more but it doesnt work not everyone is ****** lol.
Pavlik is gd but he just cant sustain joes workrate and cant handle his style to even bhop struggled with it but hes a expert on fighting southpaws anyway he knocked him down when he was off balance with a great shot.

[Soundtraveler]

This fight would not be close - Pavlik would win and win by a knock out, I will call it in the 9th Round.

Calzaghe's hands are too brittle to throw hard punches anymore, Pavlik will figure that much out very early in the fight, by the 4th Round it will be obvious that Pavlik knows he can walk in on Calzaghe without getting hurt.

People talk about Calzaghe's work rate - but Pavlik is no slouch, in fact I believe he will throw more punches than Calzaghe, and keep in mind that Pavlik has VERY heavy hands, I have heard them land from ringside myself, and trust me, he NEVER throws a pitty pat punch like Joe C. does. Pavlik wants to hurt you with every punch, including the jab, which is far better than Calzaghe's jab, with much more power.

Bottom line - Pavlik walks through Calzaghe and wins it by a TKO, and it won't be close on the scorecards when the fight ends...

[abadger]

This fight would not be close - Pavlik would win and win by a knock out, I will call it in the 9th Round.

Calzaghe's hands are too brittle to throw hard punches anymore, Pavlik will figure that much out very early in the fight, by the 4th Round it will be obvious that Pavlik knows he can walk in on Calzaghe without getting hurt.

People talk about Calzaghe's work rate - but Pavlik is no slouch, in fact I believe he will throw more punches than Calzaghe, and keep in mind that Pavlik has VERY heavy hands, I have heard them land from ringside myself, and trust me, he NEVER throws a pitty pat punch like Joe C. does. Pavlik wants to hurt you with every punch, including the jab, which is far better than Calzaghe's jab, with much more power.

Bottom line - Pavlik walks through Calzaghe and wins it by a TKO, and it won't be close on the scorecards when the fight ends...

Honestly, there is no way that would happen. Read my earlier post and tell me what you think.

[MANGLER]

Joe C's too fast and not stationary enough for Kelly to plant flush bombs on his chin in enough succession to do the damage that would set up a KO. Joe's got a good chin and could handle his power one shot at a time. And I don't see Pavlik beatin him on points.

[DuttyAlacrity]

wtf u talking about Kesslers jab is a light flick. Pavliks is a sledgehammer

a sledgehammer indeed

[kayjay]

It would be like fighting a slower, less coordinated version of Kessler.

Pavlik would fold.

[x-PeROxiDE-x]

Calzaghe's hands are too brittle to throw hard punches anymore, Pavlik will figure that much out very early in the fight

If a genius like you has deduced this much, I'm sure Pavlik already knows....

[DuttyAlacrity]

Spot on great post.
This was a obvious hater attempt i been seeing this guy hate on calzaghe all day in alot of threads lol its obvious he knew that this thread is made like every week lol he just wanted to put down calzaghe and hope people voted pavlik to win more but it doesnt work not everyone is ****** lol.
Pavlik is gd but he just cant sustain joes workrate and cant handle his style to even bhop struggled with it but hes a expert on fighting southpaws anyway he knocked him down when he was off balance with a great shot.

A hater attempt? Really? I just wanted to get some opinions. Personally i feel it is impossible for Joe to KO kelly IMPOSSIBLE... I think joe is good just not great. He hasn't beaten anyone great. A washed up Eubank and Hopkins doesn't really count to me. Beating a washed up Jones wouldn't prove anything to me either. I don't see joe winning... I can't.. he flurries with his chin exposed for peace sake. His punches would not do **** to kelly. Some people gave their opinion and made good points i.e. Kessler is possibly stronger than kelly, Joe is too fast, Kelly may be inexperienced etc. Others (case in point) post something about someone being a hater cause they can't see past Joe's nuts in their face...

[Fox McCloud]

The middleweight ain't knocking the light heavyweight out. No KO for Pavlik.

The master of the 1-2 ain't going to do any better with it than Kessler did. No decision for Pavlik.

Calzaghe's hands will break if he tries for the KO. No KO for Calzaghe.

Wide decision for Calzaghe.