Calzaghe vs Pavlik

[elgaringo]

I can respect your opinion on that... I disagree but i can respect it.
I don't think Joe is stronger, I believe Joe, after feeling Kelly's power will not be as active. Kelly DOES NOT go backwards. And i don't get how everyone say joe as a granite chin. I don't get it. He's been knocked down numerous times and to his credit he came back to win those fights. I agree that joe is TOUGH but a granite chin... naw. One of these days he's goin to get knocked down and will not be able to spring back into action like he always does...

Calzaghes been knocked down 3 times and never twice by the same apponent. Granite chin? mayby, mayby not! but it can only be proved he hasn't if he has been seriously visibly rocked and hurt or stopped

[GodOfWar]

the younger unexperienced version of Calzaghe would ko Pavlik, but since his hands are broken and he is more experienced now. He will outbox and probably win every single round against Pavlik.

[Kball15]

Joe cant punch for **** so id have to say he would either win a decision, or get stopped late by Pavlik.

Challenge for Calzaghe fans! Name ONE opponent of Calzaghes in the last 2-3 years that has a good jab! AND, name ONE opponent of Calzaghes that had a LEGITIMATE undefeated record and was a good talent? only 1 comes to mind, Kessler. And the other, Lacy, was and is a bad and horribly limited fighter.

Calzaghe has looked impressive against NOTHINGS, and the one ELITE fighter he faces, HOPKINs who is nearly 45, makes him look like an amatuer.

Unfortunetly, the fight wont happen cause ROY JONES will put an end to Calzaghes career, im 100% sure of it

[Kball15]

yeah like against Kessler, who's jab is by far superior to Pavlik's.

wtf u talking about Kesslers jab is a light flick. Pavliks is a sledgehammer

[Dorian]

Calzaghe easy ud

[x-PeROxiDE-x]

Challenge for Calzaghe fans! Name ONE opponent of Calzaghes in the last 2-3 years that has a good jab! AND, name ONE opponent of Calzaghes that had a LEGITIMATE undefeated record and was a good talent? only 1 comes to mind, Kessler. And the other, Lacy, was and is a bad and horribly limited fighter.

Kessler is more powerful than Pavlik, and also a better technician. If Kessler couldn't do it, then Pavlik wouldn't either.

wtf u talking about Kesslers jab is a light flick. Pavliks is a sledgehammer

Pavliks jab might be as good as, but by no means is it any better than Kesslers.

[meanmoe]

It would be a great fight to see, but neither fighter will sign the fight for anything but a major-contract. Joe will fight RJJ, and KP needs to have another BIG fight win to make this worth the dollars these fighters would need for that war. Boxing fans know this is fight of the year material, but the rest of the world needs to know it. It could happen but neither will do it for less then $20-30 million. I wouldn't.

[The Monk]

I wouldn't say that Pavlik is tailor made for Calzaghe, but he almost is. Even though Joe has lost a bit of hand speed over the years he is still very quick, and IMO too quick for Pavlik. Against Miranda and Taylor, Pavlik was allowed by his oppoent to control the pace of the fights, against Calzaghe this won't happen and joe will simply outwork Pavlik to take a comfortable UD.

[deuce_drop]

i think that calzaghes experience and hand speed would be too much for pavlik RIGHT NOW if they were to fight, but i think, as i have also stated, that i think pavlik would be ready enough experience wise after fighting 3 or 4 more times on the world level.

i do believe that pavlik can beat joe, just not right now, not immediately. i think that it would be a big test for pavlik, and i think that range would play a big part in a match up between the two. if pavlik could stay all the way out of joes range when he's firing off shots or come all the way in, i think that pavlik would do just fine against calzaghe, but if he were to pull the fatal mistake which the majority of fighters who have fought calzaghe, minus hopkins, by staying in calzaghes range while he's teeing off, well that wouldn't be too wise and i would say that pavlik would lose by decision.

this would be a fight where calzaghe could make mistake after mistake and still win the fight, where as pavlik would basically have to fight the prefect fight and stick to his game plan and follow it through completely, which is pavliks strong point........

i say that pavlik fights 3 or 4 more fights before he fights calzaghe, to insure that we get a as even of a match up as we can. calzaghes experience especially after fighting hopkins, is way greater than that of kelly pavlik's but i think that pavliks overall package of a fighter is and would be solid enough to give calzaghe a run for his money and would make a hell of a fight.

as of right now, i would pick calzaghe over pavlik, but give it a handful of more fights for pavlik, provided that he wins, and i think pavlik could beat calzaghe.

one thing to note, that pavlik is going to see some of what joe does, by fighting lockett, who is trained by enzo calzaghe, i'm sure there are similarities in style, ring generalship, and mentality.........not a 100% but enough to give some insight on what joe might bring to the ring, i'm sure they watched the hopkins fight to see what they would be up against.........

[abadger]

I can totally understand why those of you who like Pavlik think he can beat Joe, with 33 fights unbeaten, and an aggressive style he is exactly the type of fighter who inspires confidence in fans and makes them believe he can step up a level and keep on doing it. For a long time Joe Calzaghe has been exactly this kind of fighter to his fans too.

I have to suggest though, that more than overrating Pavlik, who is a good fighter, you are massively underestimating Calzaghe. The truth of the matter is that Joe has proved himself to be a genuinely a cut above the rest of the worlds boxers around his weight, and with defeats of Kessler and Lacy, both of whom punch harder than Kelly has shown he can handle exactly these types of fights, against younger, probably hungrier, but ultimately inferior boxers. The Kessler fight in particular demonstrates pretty well what would happen to Pavlik. Kessler is not only the more powerful of the two, he is also by some distance the better technical boxer, if Kessler was unable to land enough right hands to stop Joe, then there is absolutely no basis to believe that Kelly can, and Joe was able to negate most of Kessler's threat after just four rounds. I don't like to harp on about a single performance, but in Pavlik's case the Kessler fight is extremely pertinent.

I don't mean to disparage Kelly, but at this stage in his career, Joe would be way too much for him, Kelly would find himself outboxed and outfought. He does have a power advantage, but as has been noted many times before, Joe has taken shots from even harder punchers and has never been even close to being KO'd. Simply a Pavlik win by KO is never going to happen.