UFC Champion B.J Penn Disses Floyd Mayweather

[bsrizpac]

Anderson SIlva, GSP are unstoppable ^

Both have been stopped before. Rather easily I might add.

I like both however and think that currently they are very dominant.

[Hagler★]

I didn't say he's not. Liddell is one of my favourite fighters but he isn't beter then Penn P4P as of now if you know what that means. He's lost 2 of his last 3 fights. One comming surpisingly to Jardine so his ranking went down. Silva again has lost 3 of his last 4 fights. Two of them in the UFC. He is my favourite LHW but he is not better then BJ Penn P4P as of now. Your comparing a lightweight in Penn to Silva Lightheavy weight. I was just stating them P4P. Couture and Jackson are the only ones you names that could be argued

anderson silva not wanderlei
bj penn has lost 2 of his last 4 whats your point

LOL...Arlovski is a ****in bum. He hasn't fought in UFC in over 2 yrs and lost his last 2 fights to ****in Tim Sylvia. Randy is without saying, and as far as Machida he's good but hasn't accomplished half of what Penn has in his time let alone fighting the level of competition. he's getting his first big fight next month against Tito (which I have Machida winning).

Don't discredit the dude cause he dissed Floyd man.

shows how much you know arlovski beat werdum last year and o'brien this year. and what you automatically become **** because u lose to tim sylvia?
bj penn has won light and welterweight titles by beating trigg and steveson both are the greatest of fighters are they

LMAO.

Lidell is overrated as hell.

And arlovski? He's a ****ing bum with a China chin.

Gimme a break. You need to watch some BJ Penn fights. More natural talent than pretty much anyone in MMA. Just get past the fact that he's built like the stay puft marshmallow man.

lidell is far from over rated did his thing in pride and ufc if he beat coutoure i give him ratings. Arlovski was a beast but went hollywood and lost his way. karo parysian has natural talent as well doesnt make u a great fighter. its if u can use that talent to dominate ala anderson silva

[Left Hook Tua]

rampage lidell coutore silva arlovski griffin machida i cud go on in terms of better fighters.....

out of all of those fighters probably only anderson and ryoto is on the same level as b.j.

rampage is a brawler with good wrestling skills and great strength , lidell is a solid striker with heavy hands and great takedown defense from his wrestling background , arlovski is a heavyweight and most heavyweights in mma are jokes skill-wise (comparable to our current crop of heavy boxers compared to skilled boxers at welter or feather) , couture is a good wrestler with solid all around skills , griffin has okay skills imo but his heart and toughness pulls him through most fights.

b.j. is practically unmatched at brazilian jiu-jitsu , is a good wrestler and as a light weight a great striker. overall skills he's above ryoto and although anderson has far superior striking skills , b.j. has superior bjj skills compared to silva.

[bsrizpac]

lidell is far from over rated did his thing in pride and ufc if he beat coutoure i give him ratings. Arlovski was a beast but went hollywood and lost his way. karo parysian has natural talent as well doesnt make u a great fighter. its if u can use that talent to dominate ala anderson silva

Lidell did his thing in Pride? Ummm, he if by his thing you mean barely beating a gassed Ovreem who was kicking his ass all over the place and then being just brutalized and beaten down by Rampage (scaring Dana I might add) means "doing his thing" then yeah I guess he "did his thing". Got exposed.

I'm not saying Chuck isn't a good fighter. He's just very overrated. Look up the word overrated, it means higher up than they deserve to be. This is mostly because he's the posterboy for the casual MMA fan and the causal armchair TUF guy who thinks he knows about fighting.

Chuck has primarily spent his career beating up on grapplers by getting them into slug fests because of his size and good takedown defense.

The only good STRIKERS he has decisively beaten are:

Alistair Ovreem


Barely Beaten:

W. Silva (way past done btw, suffered two career ending KOs before fighting chuck under completely different rules that play against his strength).

Vitor Belfort (took the fight on a week and half notice).

Please name some other monster MMA strikers that Chuck has beaten. If you're such a Chuck fan you'll know. Hint: there is one, and he's Brazilian.

[supremelygifted]

Because they see it as their rival I guess, but it is not as good a spectacle and their fighters do not have the same amount of talent.

I'm sorry but I've been a true boxing fan since I was 4 or 5 years old. I would have to say if George St. Pierre,BJ Penn or even Matt Hughes got in a fight with any of the top boxers at a bar they would whip their asses! Boxing is an an art. These guys are fighters! If you don't think their talent matches what we have in boxing, I suggest you put your keyboard down and visit a MMA gym.

[Left Hook Tua]

lidell is far from over rated did his thing in pride and ufc if he beat coutoure i give him ratings. Arlovski was a beast but went hollywood and lost his way. karo parysian has natural talent as well doesnt make u a great fighter. its if u can use that talent to dominate ala anderson silva

Lidell did his thing in Pride? Ummm, he if by his thing you mean barely beating a gassed Ovreem who was kicking his ass all over the place and then being just brutalized and beaten down by Rampage (scaring Dana I might add) means "doing his thing" then yeah I guess he "did his thing". Got exposed.

I'm not saying Chuck isn't a good fighter. He's just very overrated. Look up the word overrated, it means higher up than they deserve to be. This is mostly because he's the posterboy for the casual MMA fan and the causal armchair TUF guy who thinks he knows about fighting.

Chuck has primarily spent his career beating up on grapplers by getting them into slug fests because of his size and good takedown defense.

The only good STRIKERS he has decisively beaten are:

Alistair Ovreem


Barely Beaten:

W. Silva (way past done btw, suffered two career ending KOs before fighting chuck under completely different rules that play against his strength).

Vitor Belfort (took the fight on a week and half notice).

Please name some other monster MMA strikers that Chuck has beaten. If you're such a Chuck fan you'll know. Hint: there is one, and he's Brazilian.[/QUOTE]

sobral?

[Hagler★]

Lidell did his thing in Pride? Ummm, he if by his thing you mean barely beating a gassed Ovreem who was kicking his ass all over the place and then being just brutalized and beaten down by Rampage (scaring Dana I might add) means "doing his thing" then yeah I guess he "did his thing". Got exposed.

I'm not saying Chuck isn't a good fighter. He's just very overrated. Look up the word overrated, it means higher up than they deserve to be. This is mostly because he's the posterboy for the casual MMA fan and the causal armchair TUF guy who thinks he knows about fighting.

Chuck has primarily spent his career beating up on grapplers by getting them into slug fests because of his size and good takedown defense.

The only good STRIKERS he has decisively beaten are:

Alistair Ovreem


Barely Beaten:

W. Silva (way past done btw, suffered two career ending KOs before fighting chuck under completely different rules that play against his strength).

Vitor Belfort (took the fight on a week and half notice).

Please name some other monster MMA strikers that Chuck has beaten. If you're such a Chuck fan you'll know. Hint: there is one, and he's Brazilian.

barely beaten by ko in the 1st ok mate. in ur first foray into a different kind of fighting to what you are used to and coming up against a very good practioner in ur 2nd fight a 1in2 record isnt bad.
i never sed im such a chuck fan but u cannot discredit the man. sobral was originally a wrestler that learnt vale tudo i think but lidell also beat that pele dude who was a decent striker

[DuttyBadBoyx]

Rampage,Liddell,Bj etc etc all great fighters
stick them in boxing and they would all get knocked the *** out lol
thats a fact!

Not dissin on the ufc boys but lets be honest anyone off the street that
can half have it can get accepted into the UFC win a few fights its yours..
Even a novice street fighter in Kimbo slice is calling out Chuck Liddel
its nothing but a tough man compo made legit with money backing it..

Im sick of hearing the ufc is where the best martial arts fighters in the world go etc thats utter bull**** most of them have no skills whatsoever
have u seen some of the martial artists in thailand? china etc Would seriously ruin any of those ufc heads...

And randy recently came on record and said Mayweather makes more money then any ufc fighter combined and if thats running then i'd have some of that

[bsrizpac]

barely beaten by ko in the 1st ok mate. in ur first foray into a different kind of fighting to what you are used to and coming up against a very good practioner in ur 2nd fight a 1in2 record isnt bad

Pride rounds are 10 minutes long. Remember?

So he got his ass kicked for about 8 minutes in that fight, or 9. Then he got a KO because Ovreem gassed.

Lidell was expected to walk over jackson btw. And the if you watch the fight it wasn't the Pride rules that got him his ass handled. As proved by his rematch with Jackson in the UFC where he got KOed in about 1 minute.

It's not a GOOD record if it's not bad. And certainly doesn't prove anything for Chuck.

[bsrizpac]

Rampage,Liddell,Bj etc etc all great fighters
stick them in boxing and they would all get knocked the *** out lol
thats a fact!

Not dissin on the ufc boys but lets be honest anyone off the street that
can half have it can get accepted into the UFC win a few fights its yours..
Even a novice street fighter in Kimbo slice is calling out Chuck Liddel
its nothing but a tough man compo made legit with money backing it..

Im sick of hearing the ufc is where the best martial arts fighters in the world go etc thats utter bull**** most of them have no skills whatsoever
have u seen some of the martial artists in thailand? china etc Would seriously ruin any of those ufc heads...

And randy recently came on record and said Mayweather makes more money then any ufc fighter combined and if thats running then i'd have some of that

-No no no. Where to begin. Ugh.

-No one one on the street walks into MMA. They'll get submitted.

Thailand and China? Good god man. Go back and UFC 1. Those chinese clowns got owned. Kung Fu sucks. Put down your bruce lee tapes.

UFC guys are the best martial artist because they FIGHT each other unlike the guys over there that hide behind hype.


See: the Gracie Challenge for evidence as to why you are wrong. Kung fu has never done anything other than movies. And Muay Thai is trained in and used in UFC so I'm not sure what your point is with that comment.