Hardest hitting HW EVER?

[THE REED]

I was using Valuev as an extreme example.

True that "speed" + "mass" = Power; but there's also punching technique....of which both were very good; and the unknown factor. Some guys are just heavy handed naturally.

My opionion is just based on what I've seen of both......and Mike's tomato cans didn't have the chins of some of Joe's opponents. So, there is some debate....for me, at least....as to who hit harder.

well its obviously a hypothetical situation...

im just going to stick with, i know mike had faster hand speed, and was a naturally bigger guy... his punching tecnique was perfect...

based on speed + mass = power, i have to take mike... but anyone taking joe has an argument being it is, a hypothetical debate.

[K-DOGG]

well its obviously a hypothetical situation...

im just going to stick with, i know mike had faster hand speed, and was a naturally bigger guy... his punching tecnique was perfect...

based on speed + mass = power, i have to take mike... but anyone taking joe has an argument being it is, a hypothetical debate.

Cool with me.


Well, that's it for me gents.


PEACE!!!


I'm out.

[THE REED]

Cool with me.


Well, that's it for me gents.


PEACE!!!


I'm out.

lada... nice meeting.

[Scott9945]

Alot of people say Shavers...

Ken Norton, who fought them both, picked Foreman and described his power as "unbelievable".

[Dirt E Gomez]

Hey morons:

Force = Mass x Acceleration.

It had more to do w/ the types of punches thrown though, not physics equations.

Tyson had faster hands, but he through flurries and hard, crisp shots... Not coma inducing heavy bombs like Shavers. Tyson might be in the top 10 heaviest hitters... might be. But he's definitely not near the top.

[THE REED]

Hey morons:

Force = Mass x Acceleration.

It had more to do w/ the types of punches thrown though, not physics equations.

Tyson had faster hands, but he through flurries and hard, crisp shots... Not coma inducing heavy bombs like Shavers. Tyson might be in the top 10 heaviest hitters... might be. But he's definitely not near the top.

thats fine and your opinion is welcomed... but drop the name calling... morons?

as this isnt a FACTUALLY based argument.

[Dirt E Gomez]

thats fine and your opinion is welcomed... but drop the name calling... morons?

as this isnt a FACTUALLY based argument.

I called you a moron for repeatedly typing a fact incorrectly.

[THE REED]

Why did you only look at one part of my post?

speed + mass = power ... mike had both over joe


Valuevs lack of speed is the reason he is very beatable.

OBVIOUSLY.. i already said this... dont red k me for that.. wtf is wrong with you

[THE REED]

I called you a moron for repeatedly typing a fact incorrectly.

Then I guess you disagree with lennox lewis as well

[THE REED]

I was using Valuev as an extreme example.

True that "speed" + "mass" = Power; but there's also punching technique....of which both were very good; and the unknown factor. Some guys are just heavy handed naturally.

My opionion is just based on what I've seen of both......and Mike's tomato cans didn't have the chins of some of Joe's opponents. So, there is some debate....for me, at least....as to who hit harder.

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