Hardest hitting HW EVER?

[slicksouthpaw16]

Just to add to the conversation, I think I read that Tyson said he considers Donovan "Razor" Ruddock the most powerful puncher he ever fought.

Actually that was Frank Bruno if i am remembering correctly.

[K-DOGG]

joe louis? above mike tyson? not even remotely close.

If you look at the quality of who both destroyed.....very close.

[Dirt E Gomez]

I actually haven't seen enough of Shavers, better get ordering some dvd's.

Remember Mike blew Holmes out of the water inside 4, I know Earnie fought a prime Holmes but food for thought. Holmes hasn't been stopped since to my knowledge, hell Mercer couldn't dent him, Mike just walked through him.

The right hand he lands about 1/2 way through the first round is ridiculous. I'll seriously never understand how Holmes got up. I remember reading somewhere he said he got hit too hard to be knocked out.

[K-DOGG]

I actually haven't seen enough of Shavers, better get ordering some dvd's.

Remember Mike blew Holmes out of the water inside 4, I know Earnie fought a prime Holmes but food for thought. Holmes hasn't been stopped since to my knowledge, hell Mercer couldn't dent him, Mike just walked through him.

Mike was a much better finisher and technician than Shavers; but Earnie had Mike beat on raw, unadulterated power, IMO.

[ßringer]

Earnie Shavers
George Foreman
Max Baer
Joe Louis
Mike Tyson
Donovan Ruddock
David Tua
Tommy Morrison
Gerry Cooney
Rocky Marciano...


I'm gonna stop right there because the fact is there have been monsters that never won the title that hit harder than any champion.

Out of the ones I know, Shavers gets my vote as top overall explosive, concussion-giver.

Holy **** dude, did you finally get out from that well you fell in? Seems like forever you've been gone. Welcome back bro.

[THE REED]

If you look at the quality of who both destroyed.....very close.

Joe Louis knocking out an elite fighter and mike tyson knocking out a tomato can... does not mean joe louis can hit harder than mike tyson...

joe was simply not the physical specimen that mike was, he wasnt built the same, he didnt have the same athleticism, speed or explosiveness mike had... theres just no way joe hit harder than mike.

And not only was mike much faster, but he was about 15 - 20lbs heavier.

[ßringer]

Double post................

[K-DOGG]

Holy **** dude, did you finally get out from that well you fell in? Seems like forever you've been gone. Welcome back bro.

Got at least one arm out so I can reach a computer once or twice a week.

Gimme some time, bro. I'll be up on my feet bouncing around in no time.

[K-DOGG]

Joe Louis knocking out an elite fighter and mike tyson knocking out a tomato can... does not mean joe louis can hit harder than mike tyson...

joe was simply not the physical specimen that mike was, he wasnt built the same, he didnt have the same athleticism, speed or explosiveness mike had... theres just no way joe hit harder than mike.

And not only was mike much faster, but he was about 15 - 20lbs heavier.

The size of the man does not always equate with the power of the punch.

If that were the case, no one would have ever beaten Valuev....much less gone the distance with him.

[THE REED]

The size of the man does not always equate with the power of the punch.

If that were the case, no one would have ever beaten Valuev....much less gone the distance with him.

Why did you only look at one part of my post?

speed + mass = power ... mike had both over joe


Valuevs lack of speed is the reason he is very beatable.