Antonio Margarito. Honest opinion...

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  • JoartCC
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    #51
    Originally posted by Boxinguru
    You're correct...just check these links out, ok buddy...

    click the links... http://www.e a s t s i d e b o x i n g.com/news.php?p=15416&more=1

    http://www.usatoday.com/sports/boxin...erweight_x.htm ...
    "Still Baldomir, who earned a career-high $1.6 million for the fight (Mayweather earned $8 million) felt good about his lot in life"".
    Dude... those links just got answered by cmon.

    Don't pretend like you know something noob.

    Fake Floyd earned a total of 8 million... Arum offered a pay of the same number EXCLUSIVE OF EVERYTHING ELSE.

    You're trying to argue something which has been proven already noob.

    Lols.

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    • frankpaganini
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      #52
      Originally posted by c'monmang'
      Can you take him serious as a threat in the WW division or do you agree with Asian Sensation?
      I take margarito serious.

      I think anytime you have a fighter (in ANY weight class) that uses 1200+ punches a fight you HAVE to take him seriously (especially when there is power in EVERY one of those punches).

      You can't afford not to.

      Miguel Cotto HAS TO (and i believe will) take margarito seriously; a LOT more seriously than he took gomez in their fight...it was a tune-up fight and cotto sure acted like it in the ring but this is NOT a tune-up fight and he wont take it as one...if he did im sure he'd get beat.

      if anyone didnt take margarito serious they would get beat.

      its because of his style.

      I think the reason margarito wont become (at least at this point) THEE top welterweight is because of his technique and boxing ability. it has to be further developed if he wants to rise above cotto and eventually go on to beat someone like floyd mayweather.

      this kind of pressure against floyd mayweather wont be effective unless margarito develops some actual boxing technique to go with it.

      you cant beat a guy like mayweather on pressure alone; you have to have technique; utilize your jab; counterpunch; use good defense; etc.

      you cant just bully your way through a fight (note: see mayweather v. hatton for reference).

      but margarito can become 3rd best welterweight (probably at best unless he develops more skill).

      thats the difference between he and cotto...cotto and margarito are virtually the same with the exception margarito is busier and cotto has the ability to box...thats what margarito needs...he needs to be able to stick and move; counter; etc.

      not JUST use 1200+ punches a fight...

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      • Boxinguru
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        #53
        I'm tired of arguing with you losers, I KNOW what I read! I'm not just making stuff up to uplift Floyd & downplay Margarito like you guys are doing (only vice-versa)
        C'monManG, is a Fan-boy, who doesn't like Asian Sensation b/c he gets more attention than he does
        BazookaJoe = Fanboy,
        Joeartcc(?) = Idiot spammer, Margarito Nut-Hugger..

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        • JoartCC
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          #54
          Originally posted by c'monmang'
          OMG. you are a fooolio, the first offer to fight Tony was well before the Baldo fight, was before the Mitchell fight when Floyd wanted to go to WW. there was no extension.. you make me laugh
          That's the reason why he's an idiot.

          Because he doesn't even know his facts straight.

          He thought the noober that he is that the offer stands against Marg in connection with Baldo when it was even earlier.

          This is what happens when a noob pretends like he knows something when in fact he knows nothing.

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          • JoartCC
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            #55
            Originally posted by Boxinguru
            I'm tired of arguing with you losers, I KNOW what I read! I'm not just making stuff up to uplift Floyd & downplay Margarito like you guys are doing (only vice-versa)
            C'monManG, is a Fan-boy, who doesn't like Asian Sensation b/c he gets more attention than he does
            BazookaJoe = Fanboy,
            Joeartcc(?) = Idiot spammer, Margarito Nut-Hugger..
            You're tired because you just got exposed noob.

            This is what happens when idiots like you go in here and pretend like you know something.

            Next time have do a better job of pretending like you know something ok.

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            • C'MONMANG'
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              #56
              Originally posted by mECHsLAVE
              You didn't follow boxing at the time, then. It's all anyone talked about for a full year. Little Greg Leon covered it to death with Arum on a weekly basis, so there should be tons of interviews over at b-talk if you want to go look them up. The 8 mill was guaranteed. And it was made before the Judah fight. At the time it was made, Mayweather and Margarito had each headlined exactly ONE pay-per-view and each had exactly one title. It was an incredible offer at the time. Floyd wanted nothing to do with it. There was a video of Margarito coming up to Floyd at some presser by himself, and Floyd looked very uncomfortable, saying "Let's just let it get a little bigger..." something to that effect.

              Floyd wanted nothing to do with Margarito. Anyone who followed that story knows that. C'mon, man. Floyd chose to fight Judah coming off of a loss for less money than he was offered to fight Margarito for a WW title. LOL Margarito was considered the most dangerous and most respected titlist at WW at the time, since Judah had lost to Baldomir and neither had really looked great in the fight. I mean, seriously... good game. The end.

              It's really common knowledge that Floyd ducked Margarito. You can argue who would've won, was it a smart move to avoid him, etc etc. But you can't argue that he wasn't avoided by Floyd. Sorry.

              and that pretty much covers it. well said. oh, and completley factual.

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              • JoartCC
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                #57
                Originally posted by c'monmang'
                and that pretty much covers it. well said. oh, and completley factual.
                It's obvious Guru the noob is an alt.

                I have a good idea who he is.

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                • C'MONMANG'
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Boxinguru
                  I'm tired of arguing with you losers, I KNOW what I read! I'm not just making stuff up to uplift Floyd & downplay Margarito like you guys are doing (only vice-versa)
                  C'monManG, is a Fan-boy, who doesn't like Asian Sensation b/c he gets more attention than he does
                  BazookaJoe = Fanboy,
                  Joeartcc(?) = Idiot spammer, Margarito Nut-Hugger..
                  not true, i just dont like his articles or post's cuz he is biased, Im sure he is a pretty nice kid who could learn a alot if I took hm under my wing.
                  Last edited by C'MONMANG'; 04-28-2008, 04:28 PM.

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                  • sentido común
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by c'monmang'
                    Can you take him serious as a threat in the WW division or do you agree with Asian Sensation?
                    where is the option for most feared man in the planet??

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                    • Boxinguru
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                      #60
                      Mechslave, I've been following boxing for some time & i'm not so sure you have your timelines correct! Arum offered the 8million contract to fight Margarito AFTER THE JUDAH FIGHT!!! http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...ory?id=2420382

                      If he DID offer it, when Mayweather moved to 147 (like you guys CLAIM) I didn't hear of it, & G-Leon's site was the first boxing website I visited frequently! So while you guys twist the facts, I'm providing links...can any of you who are debating do the same?

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