Who will win Mayweather vs Cotto?

[Horus]

But if they are all vacant title that Baldomir vacated and they're all meanless and since Floyd is the REAL CHAMPION beating Baldomir wouldn't all those belts be meanless now.

He is saying that he wants Cotto to unify against Quintana and Margarito. But aren't those belts still meaningless and isn't fighting Mayweather the only way of winning the REAL TITLE.

Why ask Cotto to unify those belts if they're meaningless in the first place.

When does a world title become Meaningless, when you are fighting for legacy..

Floyd Beating a Cotto with 3 belts

Is More impressive Than

Floyd Beating a Cotto with a Belt, that he won by vacancy...



See Floyd is smart he realize History will not look at who you beat that eventually became a champion the same as History looks at who you belt when they were a Champion....

That's why he always chase Belts...
So he can have that Argument
6 world titles
5 Weight Divisions
while staying undefeated

Because it's impressive as ****..



What Can Cotto say for himself
2 world title by the way of vacancy
in 2 weight divisions

How does that look...???

[2501]

seriously, some of you guys's feelings for Floyd transcend the normal fan/athlete relationship into some sort of intimate personal obsession. here you have a thread where the ones argueing for Cotto dont even have him as their favorite fighter and those arguing for Floyd only follow Floyd and thats it. And if they DID follow other fighters, you wouldnt know because they never make threads and or post in threads of other fighters.

the funniest part is how you guys say Cotto can do no wrong in the eyes of his fans. Do you not read your own threads? Do you not read your own posts? You guys have manifested this aura of perfection and invincibilty around Floyd which has created these delusional standards that other fighters need to follow, but of which Floyd is exempt. In this imaginary world, everything Floyd has said, done and acted upon is the epitome of logical, righteous, and brilliance. In your eyes, Floyd is the blameless victim, persecuted by an unjust world occupied by an irrational and uneducated society known as "the haters" who continue to demand and expect too much of Prince Floyd Mayweather II.

I can respect Valdimir303 because he seems to have some sense of rationality and reasonable perspective on reality. But some of you guys take this passionate obsession of a grown man of whom you will never know just too ****in far.

[Vladimir303]

When does a world title become Meaningless, when you are fighting for legacy..

Floyd Beating a Cotto with 3 belts

Is More impressive Than

Floyd Beating a Cotto with a Belt, that he won by vacancy...



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But Cotto is not the Undisputed Champion........he can't be no matter how many belts he has if floyd is the REAL CHAMPION so why do Paper titles matter? Unless Floyd was the challanger fighting a Undisputed champion like Sugar Ray Leonard did when he moved up to fight Hagler, like Delahoya did when he moved up to fight Hopkins......then the belts would matter.

But Cotto is not that type of champion winning vacant belts or unifying belts or whatever. For me as a Floyd fan, all he needs to do is take care of business with Margarito and that's all I ask. Then we'll let the chips fall where they may and see if a fight with Floyd can get made.

[Vladimir303]

seriously, some of you guys's feelings for Floyd transcend the normal fan/athlete relationship into some sort of intimate personal obsession. here you have a thread where the ones argueing for Cotto dont even have him as their favorite fighter and those arguing for Floyd only follow Floyd and thats it. And if they DID follow other fighters, you wouldnt know because they never make threads and or post in threads of other fighters.

the funniest part is how you guys say Cotto can do no wrong in the eyes of his fans. Do you not read your own threads? Do you not read your own posts? You guys have manifested this aura of perfection and invincibilty around Floyd which has created these delusional standards that other fighters need to follow, but of which Floyd is exempt. In this imaginary world, everything Floyd has said, done and acted upon is the epitome of logical, righteous, and brilliance. In your eyes, Floyd is the blameless victim, persecuted by an unjust world occupied by an irrational and uneducated society known as "the haters" who continue to demand and expect too much of Prince Floyd Mayweather II.

I can respect Valdimir303 because he seems to have some sense of rationality and reasonable perspective on reality. But some of you guys take this passionate obsession of a grown man of whom you will never know just too ****in far.

Hillarious

[oldgringo]

miguelito inside of 10.

[Horus]

But Cotto is not the Undisputed Champion........he can't be no matter how many belts if floyd is the REAL champion so why do Paper titles matter. Unless Floyd was the challanger fighting a Undisputed champion like Sugar Ray Leonard did when he moved up to fight Hagler, like Delahoya did when he moved up to fight Hopkins......then the belts would matter.

But Cotto is not that type of champion winning vacant belts or unifying belts or whatever. For me as a Floyd fan, all he needs to do is take care of business with Margarito and that's all I ask. Then we'll let the chips fall where they may and see if a fight with Floyd can get made.

Let me ask you this, All differences aside....


What you think the excuses will be After Floyd beats Cotto..??
Because History has shown us that there will be excuses...


or do you think there will be no excuses..??

[Vladimir303]

Let me ask you this, All differences aside....


What you think the excuses will be After Floyd beats Cotto..??
Because History has shown us that there will be excuses...


or do you think there will be no excuses..??

Of Course there will be excuses. Matter fact.....stay tuned as I will post a thread regarding that.

However, I can see both points of view so I'm playing Double's Advocate here.

[Horus]

Of Course there will be excuses. Matter fact.....stay tuned as I will post a thread regarding that.

However, I can see both points of view so I'm playing Double's Advocate here.

My whole point is that I want to eliminate the most credible excuses anybody can have about The significance of Floyd beating Cotto..

he never fought a young, prime, active, p4p fighter before he fought floyd
is a credible argument to downplay the significances a win over cotto is..


he only won his titles by fighting in Vacant matches is a credible argument to downplay the significance a win over cotto is..



Cotto was never highly ranked in the P4P list anyways So this win is not that impressive.....is a credible argument to downplay the significance a win over cotto is..

I will say this again:

Cotto is a good fighter..... But if he was to fight Mayweather right now....
Only thing Cotto would be consider as is "Mayweather biggest threat"

It wouldn't be a fight in which two great fighters are fighting each other...

It would be another...

"Mayweather could possibly lose this fight..."

not

"Cotto could win this fight" Or "This fight would determine who is the greatest"
because cotto haven't done enough to be consider to be the great..

If Cotto beat Mayweather right now he would be like
"Vernon Forrest"
Yeah he Beat Mosley, but what other great fighters have he beaten...

but if he beat Mayweather after he got the 2 other belts...against prime opponents

He could be another "Trinidad" or maybe "Duran"


You see I want this fight to determine something...of significance


I dont want to fight just prove Mayweather is the best, because we already know he is the best..


This my point....

[PR Boxer]

Hey Horus, quick question for ya, if/when Cotto defeats Mayweather what will be you excuse or will you recognize Cotto as the greatest fighter?

[Horus]

Hey Horus, quick question for ya, if/when Cotto defeats Mayweather what will be you excuse or will you recognize Cotto as the greatest fighter?

If you read my post i answer that question....

If Cotto beat Mayweather right now he would be like
"Vernon Forrest" or "Winky Wright"
Yeah he Beat Mosley, but what other great fighters have he beaten...
Sidenote
(They beat mosley in his prime)

but if he beat Mayweather after he got the 2 other belts...against prime opponents

He could be another "Trinidad" or maybe "Duran"...



I DO NOT HATE COTTO, I JUST SEE THROUGH THE HYPE...!!