Rank these British SMW in order

[Dynamite Kid]

I think Benn may have been affected by what happened in previous fights, particularly the McClellan fight, but people shouldn't use that to discredit Collins two wins. Maybe Collins was somewhat shot too, we don't know.

As for Eubank, he wasn't shot at all when he fought Collins, he looked the same as always. Collins deserves credit for those two wins over the younger fighter...

i am not discrediting Collins win im saying your logic is dumb that because he beat Benn twice he is a better fighter

styles make fights & the totality of a career determines who is the better fighter

[Rocky Katsidis]

I would NEVER class Collins as British.
But we are on Boxingscene don't forget.

God man moofo

[RichCCFC]

1. Joe Calzaghe
2. Chris Eubank
3. Nigel Benn
4. Steve Collins
5. Michael Watson
6. Carl Froch

[Degsy]

Eubanks easly number one, at least over Calzaghe, unless you are a biased.

biased isn't a noun, its an adjective, try finishing the sentence with a noun; arsehole would be kind of ironic, alternatively drop the article and it would make sense, unlike putting Eubank at no1 (great fighter though he was)

[starjammer]

Joe Calzaghe, Nigel Benn, Chris Eubank, Steve Collins, Michael Watson, Carl Froch.

How would you rank these guys in order best to worst? Oh yeah.. Orange_Sneakers, your post isn't wanted

sorry man its probabaly a mistake and you're a kool guy, but ranking Collins as British really annoys me. lol

Anyway my list...

Calzaghe
Eubank
Benn
Watson
Collins
Froch

[Steak]

Since Collins defeated Benn twice and Eubank twice, he has to be ranked above them.

Steve Collins is the same age as Nigel Benn, and two years older than Chris Eubank.

You dont have to be 'old' to be past your best. Fighters can 'age' in different ways, some of them have tough careers where theyve taken too many punches and be past their best. Sometimes its because they have trouble making weight. A lot of the time, which is often overlooked, is that fighters can wear their bodies out due to their training...like look at Julio Cesar Chavez and Terry Norris, they started getting worn out badly very quickly because their training mostly consisted of tons of sparring, which wears out someone's body way quicker than say shadow boxing...

all you can really do to find out someone's 'prime' is watch them at different points in their career, and figure out when they looked their best.

Look at someone like Morales...He went out of his way to get hit and make it an exciting fight, and never gave a **** about letting his body recover after tough fights. and then bam...right after he had been through slugfests with Pacquiao and Barrera, he was looking way worse getting beat badly by Zahir Raheem, and he was only 30ish. Or look at someone like Meldrick Taylor or Fernando Vargas. Theres tons of examples.


oh yea that being said, I dont believe Ive seen enough of Collins, Watson or Eubank to make a worthwhile decision. I prefer to know what Im talking about before I talk about it, haha

[Degsy]

You dont have to be 'old' to be past your best. Fighters can 'age' in different ways, some of them have tough careers where theyve taken too many punches and be past their best. Sometimes its because they have trouble making weight. A lot of the time, which is often overlooked, is that fighters can wear their bodies out due to their training...like look at Julio Cesar Chavez and Terry Norris, they started getting worn out badly very quickly because their training mostly consisted of tons of sparring, which wears out someone's body way quicker than say shadow boxing...

all you can really do to find out someone's 'prime' is watch them at different points in their career, and figure out when they looked their best.

Look at someone like Morales...He went out of his way to get hit and make it an exciting fight, and never gave a **** about letting his body recover after tough fights. and then bam...right after he had been through slugfests with Pacquiao and Barrera, he was looking way worse getting beat badly by Zahir Raheem, and he was only 30ish. Or look at someone like Meldrick Taylor or Fernando Vargas. Theres tons of examples.


oh yea that being said, I dont believe Ive seen enough of Collins, Watson or Eubank to make a worthwhile decision.

I was going to post something along these lines, but I think you've covered pretty much what I was mulling over; good post

[Silencers]

1.Joe Calzaghe
2.Chris Eubank
3.Nigel Benn
4.Steve Collins
5.Carl Froch
6.Michael Watson

Calzaghe is the best super middleweight in history IMO, so ranking him as number 1 is a no brainer to me. I thought Eubank was a better fighter than Benn. I ranked Watson last because he only had that 1 tragic fight at 168.

[Clegg]

Hard question to answer for a couple of reasons. Firstly I think that Eubank was a better fighter than Collins in that if you put them up against 10 opponents, Eubank would be more likely to beat all of those opponents than Collins would. At the same time I think that Collins had the style to beat a prime Eubank. The reason for this is because even at his best Eubank often had close fights with debateable decisions, and Collins would've pushed him the whole fight and made him work every second. I'm 60% sure that prime vs prime Collins would've beaten a prime Eubank.

I would put Benn's victory over Gerald above any victory achieved by anyone else on that list. McClellan was destroying everyone he fought and Benn suffered a broken jaw as well as several other bad injuries in that fight and still stayed in there and kept going. I'm unsure how anyone else on the list would've done against McClellan. Putting Iran Barkley down 3 times in the first round is also very impressive, especially when you consider how much trouble Hearns had with him.

I'd probably have Calzaghe first. His victories weren't as impressive as Benn's, but Benn's defeats have to be considered too.

1. Calzaghe2. Benn3. Eubank4. CollinsI haven't seen enough of Watson or Froch to judge.

I think that Herol Graham could be included on the list too. I know he was a middleweight for most of his career, but the same is true of Watson (and to a lesser extent Collins). At 38 he managed to score 2 knockdowns when challenging for a title a 168.