Rank these British SMW in order

[The Hammer]

Mike Tyson born 1965.
Lennox Lewis Born 1966.

Did they have their prime at the same time??

There is no way you can argue that Collins met Benn or Eubank at the height of their power.
They had both been in wars whereas Collins had not.
In fact he had NEVER been anywhere near their level of opposition and lost to much inferior men.

You can use that argument to make an excuse for any fighter's loss! Or to discredit another fighter's win.

Fighters deserve credit for their wins. Every time certain fighters win over a highly ranked opponent, some say the opponent is "shot", rather than saying "it was a good win".

[Dynamite Kid]

Your logic: he must be shot if he lost to Collins.

It couldn't possibly have anything to do with Collins being a good fighter, because you deeply believe Collins is inferior.

Then Collins defeated the younger Eubank twice, but of course there must be some other reason than Collins being a good fighter, since you believe he is inferior. So although Eubank was younger, you'll say he was shot.

Truly sickening.

are u ****** or what no once have i said Eubank was shot

by your logic because u happen to be the same age as someone your body cant be any worse for wear than the other guy which is an idiotic way of looking at it

Roy Jones is not much older than Tarver but it dont make him better fighter cause he beat Roy twice ,we all know Roy would have whiped the flaw with him in his prime

[The Hammer]

i agree but personally i thought Collins won the first & i supsect Eubank did to he was saying at the end of the fight ive got a draw

It was the judges, now. It just couldn't have been that Collins won...

...or Calzaghe defeated Hopkins...

[Dynamite Kid]

You can use that argument to make an excuse for any fighter's loss! Or to discredit another fighter's win.

Fighters deserve credit for their wins. Every time certain fighters win over a highly ranked opponent, some say the opponent is "shot", rather than saying "it was a good win".

u truly are an idiot mate

fighters deserve creidt for thier wins yes but u are making the assumption that because Collins beat Benn & Eubank twice that he was a better fighter

u have to take into account the totality of someones career & the condition they were in when the fights accured

[moofo]

You can use that argument to make an excuse for any fighter's loss! Or to discredit another fighter's win.

Fighters deserve credit for their wins. Every time certain fighters win over a highly ranked opponent, some say the opponent is "shot", rather than saying "it was a good win".

Tunney I like you as a poster but I need to know if you TRULY believe that Collins fought Benn & Eubank at their best?
Please tell me you are having a mad moment here.
There is no way in HELL that Collins would survive the Benn that met Gerald or the Eubank that met Watson.

[Dynamite Kid]

It was the judges, now. It just couldn't have been that Collins won...

...or Calzaghe defeated Hopkins...

what are u talking about i said i thought Eubank won u clown

[The Hammer]

u have to take into account the totality of someones career & the condition they were in when the fights accured

You are the idiot - according to your logic, winning doesn't mean anything. That's Terrible... thinking.

If someone you don't like wins, it's because the other fighter was shot.

[Dynamite Kid]

You are the idiot - according to your logic, winning doesn't mean anything. That's Terrible... thinking.

no beating a fighter who in the majority of peoples eyes what shot to bits in Nigel Benn does not mean u are a better fighter

Maricano beat Joe Louis does that mean Marciano was the better fighter no it means he beat a legend & has a great win on his record & it is upto the Boxing public /Media to decide if by the totality of his career he should rank above Louis

[The Hammer]

Tunney I like you as a poster but I need to know if you TRULY believe that Collins fought Benn & Eubank at their best?
Please tell me you are having a mad moment here.
There is no way in HELL that Collins would survive the Benn that met Gerald or the Eubank that met Watson.

I think Benn may have been affected by what happened in previous fights, particularly the McClellan fight, but people shouldn't use that to discredit Collins two wins. Maybe Collins was somewhat shot too, we don't know.

As for Eubank, he wasn't shot at all when he fought Collins, he looked the same as always. Collins deserves credit for those two wins over the younger fighter...

[The Hammer]

no beating a fighter who in the majority of peoples eyes what shot to bits in Nigel Benn does not mean u are a better fighter

Maricano beat Joe Louis does that mean Marciano was the better fighter no it means he beat a legend & has a great win on his record & it is upto the Boxing public /Media to decide if by the totality of his career he should rank above Louis

Yes, people discredit ALL of Marciano's wins, including the two over Ezzard Charles who was Marciano's own age.

But do they ever discredit Louis win in the rematch over the 38 year old Schmeling? Or Ali's wins over old Liston, or the Frazier who was shot after the Foreman fight?

Same old double standard.