Whitiker would have beat Mayweather!!!

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  • Bad_Barracuda
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    #31
    Originally posted by reedickyaluss
    mayweather at lightweight is an absolute killer
    Floyd at 147 is also a lot sturdier than Pernell was at Welter..

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      #32
      Originally posted by Thread Stealer
      Alright, cool. My beef is not with your analysis of the fight but more with people (not saying you) that have no knowledge of a fighter or his style then post nonsense.

      Examples:

      "Whitaker had no offense and just ran"
      "Cotto is starting to box now, he never did that before!"
      "Chavez had no skills, just pressure"
      "Mayweather always runs and never exchanges"
      "Marvin Hagler was a face-first pressuring brawler"

      Sometimes I just get bored and have sarcastic, obnoxious posts, to get a response, which I did.
      Yeah, those comments get to me sometimes too, I've just decided to ignore them because for the most part people who make claims of that sort can't logically back them up and won't be convinced no matter how clear the explanation.

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      • Bad_Barracuda
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        #33
        Originally posted by BrooklynBomber
        I am afraid both would have been disqualified for not willing to engage.
        You're afraid to make sense..

        Ask Hatton if Floyd is afraid to engage..

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        • Scott9945
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          #34
          Originally posted by reedickyaluss
          hey how would whitaker handle meldrick taylor?!
          Rather easily. Taylor may have been faster, but Whitaker was the much better ring technician. Just in case you don't know, they were stablemates with the same trainers so they would have never fought.

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          • THE REED
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            #35
            Originally posted by Scott9945
            Rather easily. Taylor may have been faster, but Whitaker was the much better ring technician. Just in case you don't know, they were stablemates with the same trainers so they would have never fought.
            cool i didnt know that

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            • Bad_Barracuda
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              #36
              Originally posted by ICANTLIE
              Yeah just because he's mexican right? Sweet Pea already school Chavez mexican nuthugger.


              You got that right

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              • Boxinguru
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                #37
                The correct answer should be I DON't KNOW... Contrary to the popular believe I think this could be a slightly entertaining fight!

                Both are counter-punchers by nature, & usually when Floyd is fighting a (slick) southpaw...Judah, Mitchell, Chop-Chop.. he usually puts the pressure on his opponents! Whitaker was a defensive genius & if Floyd got 2 carried away, throwing wild punches, not moving his head (like he did against the aforementioned fighters) Whitaker would pick him apart, while slipping & sliding out of the way...IMO Floyd has more power in his punches & is very accurate when's he not "forcing it", but it's usually 1 or 2 at a time! Speed was about equal...I just think the southpaw stance of Whitaker would give him some slight problems & I know Floyd's is a GREAT adjuster, but I'm just not sure he could hit whitaker enough & not get tagged in the process... It's either a draw or a UD/SD/MD for either fighter... I might have to lean towards Sweat Pea...If it could have happened it would have been a great fight!

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                • Pugilistic™
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                  #38
                  i picked i don't know

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                  • Steak
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Thread Stealer
                    Mayweather tends to be more aggressive against lefties, and therefore more hittable.

                    Against Corley, Mayweather was more aggressive, and got hit more, and even got rocked as a consequence early in round 4.

                    Against Mitchell, Mayweather was the least of aggressive of his bouts versus lefties, but still came forward and attacked and dropped Mitchell a couple times, even taking a nice left hand late in the 2nd round (I think).

                    Against Judah, Mayweather was taking some nice shots early on, but adjusted, and spent the majority of the bout coming forward and pressuring Judah, and basically beating him up until Zab almost turned him into a girl.

                    McGirt and Roger weren't as good as Floyd, but they hit harder. Whitaker had no problem trading with them. Even against Chavez, although Pea spent the majority of it circling or on the backfoot, he still managed to rock JCC in round 8 with a left, bull Chavez into the ropes a few times with his shoulder, fight him on the inside, etc....

                    Whitaker was slick, but rarely a runner or a stink-out-the-joint type fighter like Cory Spinks or Zahir Raheem. He had a high workrate and winged hooks to the body a lot. It was just that it was only his straight left upstairs that carried a wallop.
                    He hit pretty hard to the body too at times though. Didnt he break Poli Diaz's ribs when they fought? I dont know if he actually broke em, but Poli was gone for the rest of the fight. also Pernell would at times be able to break his opponent, which sounds strange when you think of Pernell, but he was able to do it sometimes. I remember Haugen was pretty much out of the fight by the last rounds, and he was a tough son of a *****.

                    I think that Floyd is probebly most open to the jab. most recently Oscar was able to land effectively with his, and while Oscar always had a real good jab I would not it was as consistant as Whitakers.
                    Also, I think the Judah fight tells a lot about how the fight would go. Mayweather ended up coming forward behind a high defense to win the fight, and if he fought like that against Whitaker, I think he would be at a huge disadvantage. If the two of them fought at a distance like the first part of the Judah fight went, then I think Whitaker's jab would be able to land on Mayweather a little too much, and he would win a decision.

                    still, hard to say. both incredibly talented guys.

                    and btw guys, Chavez was past his best when he fought Whitaker. Whitaker also was probebly past his best, and I dont think Chavez would have ever beaten him, but its not fair to base Chavez off that fight. besides, Chavez didnt get his ass beat that bad, he probebly won around 4 rounds in that fight. 116-112 is a fairly close score.

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                    • Thread Stealer
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by blackirish137
                      He hit pretty hard to the body too at times though. Didnt he break Poli Diaz's ribs when they fought? I dont know if he actually broke em, but Poli was gone for the rest of the fight. also Pernell would at times be able to break his opponent, which sounds strange when you think of Pernell, but he was able to do it sometimes. I remember Haugen was pretty much out of the fight by the last rounds, and he was a tough son of a *****.

                      I think that Floyd is probebly most open to the jab. most recently Oscar was able to land effectively with his, and while Oscar always had a real good jab I would not it was as consistant as Whitakers.
                      Also, I think the Judah fight tells a lot about how the fight would go. Mayweather ended up coming forward behind a high defense to win the fight, and if he fought like that against Whitaker, I think he would be at a huge disadvantage. If the two of them fought at a distance like the first part of the Judah fight went, then I think Whitaker's jab would be able to land on Mayweather a little too much, and he would win a decision.

                      still, hard to say. both incredibly talented guys.

                      and btw guys, Chavez was past his best when he fought Whitaker. Whitaker also was probebly past his best, and I dont think Chavez would have ever beaten him, but its not fair to base Chavez off that fight. besides, Chavez didnt get his ass beat that bad, he probebly won around 4 rounds in that fight. 116-112 is a fairly close score.
                      Yeah, Whitaker (and Mayweather for that matter) was an underrated body puncher.

                      Whitaker dropped Pineda with a savage right hook to the ribs. He hurt Trinidad to the ribs in the 7th (I think) round of their fight. He loved to stand at range and throw hooks to his opponents ribs and avoid the incoming.

                      I had Whitaker-Chavez the same score, 116-112 Pea. It was a bad decision, but I've seen much worse. Both guys were past their best weight classes, both probably peaked at 135, but Whitaker's style and skill level enabled him to be successful at higher weights. I'm not sure if a fight between the 2 turns out much different at 135 or 140, maybe it would be harder to judge. Whitaker's 8 rounds were more clear than Chavez's 4 rounds.

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