Calzaghe couldn't shine Lennox's shoes

[The Hammer]

honestly, who do you think looks better? It really has nothing to do with white or black.

Who looks better in the ring - Wlad or Thompson, your favorite fighter, with his "ear-muffs" style? Povetkin or Thompson? Boytsov or Thompson?

It has everything to do with white and black for you.

[squealpiggy]

Light Heavy has better quality fighters though even if they are past their prime.

Hopkins > Bute
Calzaghe > Kessler
Dawson > Taylor
Tarver > Miranda
Jones Jr > Lacy
Johnson > Froch
Woods > Bika
Erdei > Mundine

I don't think Woods could beat Bika. I'm not sure Dawson could beat Taylor for that matter though I can see something of Taylor in Dawson - same level of uncertainty. Hopkins would probably beat Bute, but he may be retiring very soon. And while Tarver would beat Miranda and Roy Jones Jr would beat a destroyed Lacy Kessler would in all likelihood beat anyone at light heavy right now with the exception of Hopkins and Calzaghe.

[Steak]

I think Super Middle is pretty deep now although it doesn't have the deepest history. I don't think Light Heavy is particularly strong at the moment, as detailed above. It's mostly past prime fighters battling each other for a shot at their last million in the bank. Middleweight is a shambles. Aside from Pavlik you'd struggle to find a top fighter. Winky Wright has had better days. Arthur Abraham was considered a loser in his fight with Miranda by almost everyone. Who else do we have? Felix Sturm? John Duddy?

Super Middle is where it's at right now in that region with Lucien Bute, Mikkel Kessler, Jermaine Taylor, Edison Miranda, Anthony Mundine etc.

absolutely, Super Middle is actually very deep right now, while Middle isnt very deep and Light Heavy is a little bit stale. all we need is for the damn guys to actually start fighting each other at 168 and we would probebly have a hell of a division.

Who looks better in the ring - Wlad or Thompson, your favorite fighter, with his "ear-muffs" style? Povetkin or Thompson? Boytsov or Thompson?

geez, why does every assume that just because someones a fan of a fighter means that they think theyre the best? Ive said multiple times that Tony aint nothing special, Im his fan because he got started in boxing late, seems like a nice guy, and has no other fans. Povetkin looks slightly better than Tony, and Boytsov looks like in the future he will be better than him as well. Just because Im a fan of a fighter doesnt mean Im delusional about them.

oh yea, you still want that bet?

[Cobrita]

absolutely, Super Middle is actually very deep right now, while Middle isnt very deep and Light Heavy is a little bit stale. all we need is for the damn guys to actually start fighting each other at 168 and we would probebly have a hell of a division.
geez, why does every assume that just because someones a fan of a fighter means that they think theyre the best? Ive said multiple times that Tony aint nothing special, Im his fan because he got started in boxing late, seems like a nice guy, and has no other fans. Povetkin looks slightly better than Tony, and Boytsov looks like in the future he will be better than him as well. Just because Im a fan of a fighter doesnt mean Im delusional about them.

oh yea, you still want that bet?

Your still argueing with the white supremist I mean this is a guy who thought Hatton would beat Mayweather despite knowing the skill difference and that Gene Tunney is the greatest heavy of all time. lol ask him who is racist now and btw WLAD OWNS is his alt, he uses it quite often to pick against the black guys. He was also known as CanadaJoe earlier on but changed his identity

[Cobrita]

I don't think Woods could beat Bika. I'm not sure Dawson could beat Taylor for that matter though I can see something of Taylor in Dawson - same level of uncertainty. Hopkins would probably beat Bute, but he may be retiring very soon. And while Tarver would beat Miranda and Roy Jones Jr would beat a destroyed Lacy Kessler would in all likelihood beat anyone at light heavy right now with the exception of Hopkins and Calzaghe.

I dont know, Glen Johnson is tougher than Sakio Bika, just ask Codrington...




Dawson would beat Taylor quite easily and Lacy destroyed or not, Hopkins would have beat him quite badly and even you know that well deep down squealy! come on now!!!

[The Hammer]

oh yea, you still want that bet?

Yes, 10000 points? Or 20000 if you like. I'll sig it...

[Steak]

Yes, 10000 points? Or 20000 if you like. I'll sig it...

sure, Ill take it. hey, lets have it that Ill give you 10000 if Wlad wins, 20000 if he knocks out Tony. that sounds more original, haha. same thing for Tony, if hell freezes over and he somehow knocks out Wlad I get 20000

[The Hammer]

Gene Tunney is the greatest heavy of all time.

Gene Tunney is the greatest LIGHT heavyweight of all time, according to the unbiased computerized rankings at boxrec.

I'm not a racist, but you clearly are! Can you imagine if someone bashed black fighters all the time the way you bash the white ones? And again, I'm not Wlad Owns.

It's sickening to read your posts - all you ever do is hate on boxers.

[The Hammer]

sure, Ill take it. hey, lets have it that Ill give you 10000 if Wlad wins, 20000 if he knocks out Tony. that sounds more original, haha. same thing for Tony, if hell freezes over and he somehow knocks out Wlad I get 20000

Okay. Done deal. 10,000 if either wins by decision, 20,000 if either wins by KO. Thompson has never been down as far as I know, but he's never faced anyone like Wlad. A decision win wouldn't surprise me.

[Mizzou]

Yeah because the division was great, full of great fighters right?

Agree. Lots of smaller fighters like Hop, PBF get alot of clout for winning in multiple weight divisions, I guess calzaghes gets twenty five cents for moving up when he naturally would weigh more and beating a gassed fighter. A true heavyweight doesn't have that option.