If Bernard hadn't cheated and didn't take that 5 minute break

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  • daggum
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    #21
    if flailing punches is a sign of fatigue calzaghe must of came into the fight after running 3 marathons with his flailing windmill punches. also cause calzaghe landed one good body punch in his career against kessler doenst make him cotto.

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    • Scoooter
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      #22
      Originally posted by daggum
      if flailing punches is a sign of fatigue calzaghe must of came into the fight after running 3 marathons with his flailing windmill punches. also cause calzaghe landed one good body punch in his career against kessler doenst make him cotto.
      Calzaghe punches are always like that. Hopkins started out crisp and in control, but, towards the end of the fight, he was noticeably worn down. He was fighting Calzaghe's fight more than he should have, exchanging flurries and trying to keep Joe off of him, and, as the fight progressed, it got to him - physically and mentally. That's why he faked the lowblows. He desperately needed a break, and he couldn't get it by fighting, so he turned to acting.
      Last edited by Scoooter; 04-23-2008, 02:04 AM.

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      • ReadyUp
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        #23
        Originally posted by daggum
        if flailing punches is a sign of fatigue calzaghe must of came into the fight after running 3 marathons with his flailing windmill punches. also cause calzaghe landed one good body punch in his career against kessler doenst make him cotto.
        You can talk as much **** about Joe's slapping punches (honestly I can't stand them either) but you do have to admit that B-Hop looked really old in the last 3 rounds of the fight. Every bit of steam came off his punches and it did look like he couldn't throw a straight, power punch to save his life. That's something we have never seen from Bernard Hopkins, even when he's only throwing 15 punches a round.

        He didn't get old overnight, he's been old. But he can't reverse the clock anymore with his guile and boxing knowledge. That break def helped Bernard and rightfully so. He's 43 years old and a helluva fighter. But he's nowhere near the fighter PHYSICALLY that he once was.

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        • Motofan
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          #24
          He was tired, but not hurt. Hopkins wasnt getting knocked out any time soon.

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          • Fox McCloud
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            #25
            Let me get this straight...

            Are you literally saying that Hopkins faked the pain from the low blow to get a break from Calzaghe's relentless high-powered attack? You actually are advocating that feather-fist Calzaghe (at a higher weight than he had ever fought before, and he wasn't even powerful at 168 at the end!) was going to stop the iron-chinned Hopkins, who has a ridiculously good defense that generally fully blocks most shots, and partially blocks the rest of the shots? Also, keep in mind that Hopkins really is one of the toughest MFs in the sport. Down in one fight in his career, against a South American fighter. When is the last time you saw a South American fighter who didn't have ridiculous amounts of power?

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            • TheGreatA
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              #26
              No but Joe would've probably won the last 3 rounds more decisively.

              But I'm all for Hopkins taking the 5 minute break because he did get hit low, it doesn't say he has to be hit hard below the belt just that he has to be hit low. It's all in the rules.


              It's not like he was going to be knocked out by punches like this.

              Down in one fight in his career, against a South American fighter. When is the last time you saw a South American fighter who didn't have ridiculous amounts of power?
              He was down 2 times and fought to a draw in his opponent's hometown.
              That is an achievement, people shouldn't judge Hopkins' character by a fight where he was well over 40 years old.
              Last edited by TheGreatA; 04-23-2008, 05:34 AM.

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              • RodBarker
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                #27
                The low blow was upward in nature and sometimes if the cup is clipped its like that it whips and its like getting flicked on the balls , it can hurt believe me , he probably played it out a bit but it was a low blow and since when is it cheating to take a couple of minutes he could have taking a full five ,,, cheating wtf , get a clue fellas .

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                • SHB
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by RodBarker
                  The low blow was upward in nature and sometimes if the cup is clipped its like that it whips and its like getting flicked on the balls , it can hurt believe me , he probably played it out a bit but it was a low blow and since when is it cheating to take a couple of minutes he could have taking a full five ,,, cheating wtf , get a clue fellas .
                  Behave. There is no way on this earth that Hopkins was hurt by that.

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                  • daggum
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by SHB
                    Behave. There is no way on this earth that Hopkins was hurt by that.
                    you talking about calzaghes punches?

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                    • squealpiggy
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                      #30
                      ou actually are advocating that feather-fist Calzaghe (at a higher weight than he had ever fought before, and he wasn't even powerful at 168 at the end!) was going to stop the iron-chinned Hopkins, who has a ridiculously good defense that generally fully blocks most shots, and partially blocks the rest of the shots?
                      Feather fisted? Really, get a clue.

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