Age is nothing : Hopkins is at his prime now

[RodBarker]

He still makes most P4P lists and doesn't exactly look shot so it could easily be said that he is still in his prime.

This is the problem you cant have a win for what it is you got to make the opponent as good as you can make them to make the win bigger , 43 and still in his prime , this notion is laughable really !

[Mozza]

This is the problem you cant have a win for what it is you got to make the opponent as good as you can make them to make the win bigger , 43 and still in his prime , this notion is laughable really !

It is not laughable at all. Unless of course you are saying all the people who had him that high on the P4P lists were all wrong and that Hopkins has been pulling the wool over their eyes for years. Now that is laughable.

[Wiley Hyena]

No one can say **** about age. Hopkins paid Shilstone a lot of money and Shilstone did his job, plus told Bernard he has the body of a 28 year old.

It's all excuses about father time catching up. What a load of crap. Either Shilstone is lying, and in which case, Bernard should ask for a refund, or he's fighting like a 28 year old man. So which is it?

Utlimata has the ability to create controversial threads. Hopkins is past his prime....period. But, he's still a very good defensive fighter. (Offense gone a long time ago). If Hop could not figure out the Calzaghe riddle, I doubt anybody can. It was still a great win for Calzaghe.

[tyson]

They don't admit people to mental hospitals for having opinions and certainly not opinions which can be backed up with facts. Hopkins is a perennial P4P fighter and in fact makes the top five of most people who have serious views about the sport.

They will happily admit people who have opinions based on dellusional or imaginary facts. You people are dangerous.

Hopkins making top 5 P4P has absolutely nothing to do with him being in his prime.
Is this a difficult concept for you to comprehend?

Just say the words, and I'll break it down for ya

[warp1432]

Even if Hopkins isn't in his prime, it's still a great win though.

[Mozza]

They will happily admit people who have opinions based on dellusional or imaginary facts. You people are dangerous.

Hopkins making top 5 P4P has absolutely nothing to do with him being in his prime.
Is this a difficult concept for you to comprehend?

Just say the words, and I'll break it down for ya

A difficult concept for me to comprehend is your refusal to accept facts. If Hopkins makes the P4P list it must therefore follow that he is still performing at a high level. Whether it is his prime or not is debatable but the very fact that it is debatable suggests that even if he is not in his prime he is still a very dangerous opponent and a great scalp for anybody.

[freedom213]

Beating Hopkins at 43 is a big win. A win as big as any one else who has beat Hopkins, other than RJJ.

Because any boxing coach will tell you. A Spoiler can be at his best until 50. Right now Hopkins is fighting as good as i have seen him, and the same as i have seen him for a long time.

So before you stop saying hes 43 it doesn't matter. It was a big win. Joe beat him at his own game, when Hopkins was at his best!

you're stock as a scholar of the game or at least someone who speaks on subjects they actually know something about is going way down bro! Hopkins used to be an offensive dynamo but that was quite a ways back. He now fights with a defensive first style very economical with his offense if not somwhat limited on the variety of punches he can throw at least from a consistent standpoint. The man used to possess a great jab, body game and was very prone to bring it to you on the inside and out. Hopkins is far from his prime but should be respected even more for what he was able to accomplish when he realized that skill set had faded and he needed to change to still be effective.

[MissDeeCole]

It's also 2008 where 43 is the new 33, especially in Hopkins case with the shape he stays in

[RodBarker]

It is not laughable at all. Unless of course you are saying all the people who had him that high on the P4P lists were all wrong and that Hopkins has been pulling the wool over their eyes for years. Now that is laughable.

Answer me this , how old are you ? just I can get a line on what your perspective of age is in the context of what we are talking about .

Put it this way what ever you can do physically as an older man you could do easier at a faster rate and have more endurance as a younger man and the big slide really starts at about 35 , you dont get physically better as you get past 35 , thats whats laughable .

[tyson]

A difficult concept for me to comprehend is your refusal to accept facts. If Hopkins makes the P4P list it must therefore follow that he is still performing at a high level. Whether it is his prime or not is debatable but the very fact that it is debatable suggests that even if he is not in his prime he is still a very dangerous opponent and a great scalp for anybody.

You are actually closing in on my point

Didn't see that one coming...

Hopkins making p4p list at this stage of his career speaks volumes of two things;

1. The state of boxing today.

2. The greatness of Hopkins in his prime.

See, even if Hopkins is ranked among the top 5 p4p4p4p when he performs at 50% of what he was capable in his prime, it doesn't mean he is in his prime.
It means he was a freakin' beast in his prime.

It is not debatable that Hopkins is way over his prime.

Him being competitive at this point shows his intelligence and dedication.
And gives you an indication at how good he used to be.

I'm sorry, Calzaghe is nowhere near the level of Hopkins' greatness.