Pound for Pound top 4

[77Ritchie77]

i think the top four are pretty clear here; lets look at their last 4 fights and see if we can agree on any sort of order
my order

1. Calzaghe - hopkins(hall of famer), kessler (undefeated unified champ), manfredo( contender at best) , lacy(undefeated champion)
2. Pacquiao - marquez(tough mexican champ in his prime) barrera(old guy should have been retired but HOFer) solis(is he even a fighter anymore) morales(see barrera)
3. Israel Vazquez- Rafael Marquez in 3 battles, won 2 of 3 battles and the war, Johnny gonzales (badass mexican)
4. Floyd Mayweather - Ricky Hatton (140 pound champ) OLDH (154 lb paper titlist) Zab Judah (contender), Carlos Baldomir (the luckiest fighter ever)

[MANGLER]

1. Floyd - based on pure talent
2. or 3. Take your pick on Pac or Joe C. Damn good fighters who just won world titles against top 10 p4p opponents in close decisions and are exciting to watch.
4. Vasquez. Took 2 of 3 in a classic rivalry to rule his division over another top10 p4p fighter.

[supermandathoe]

1.Floyd
2.Joe C or Manny
3.Joe C or Manny
4.Izzy Vasquez

[sitai]

floyd skillwise he's alone
manny overall second

i think cotto should be top 5..
if joe recieves so much credit for popkins then cotto should recieve even more for mosley

[revs1227]

jo c
pac
may
vaz

[loui_ludwig]

i think the top four are pretty clear here; lets look at their last 4 fights and see if we can agree on any sort of order
my order

1. Calzaghe - hopkins(hall of famer), kessler (undefeated unified champ), manfredo( contender at best) , lacy(undefeated champion)
2. Pacquiao - marquez(tough mexican champ in his prime) barrera(old guy should have been retired but HOFer) solis(is he even a fighter anymore) morales(see barrera)
3. Israel Vazquez- Rafael Marquez in 3 battles, won 2 of 3 battles and the war, Johnny gonzales (badass mexican)
4. Floyd Mayweather - Ricky Hatton (140 pound champ) OLDH (154 lb paper titlist) Zab Judah (contender), Carlos Baldomir (the luckiest fighter ever)

Pac beat Barrrera in his prime in their first fight. Hopkins is also an "old guy" that you reffered to MAB and EM. Solis still fights and is a couple of higher in rankings in the featherweight division. Oscar Dela Hoya a paper champ, he has accomplish more than Calzaghe does. Baldomir is the luckiest fighter now.

[loui_ludwig]

floyd skillwise he's alone
manny overall second

i think cotto should be top 5..
if joe recieves so much credit for popkins then cotto should recieve even more for mosley

True. Mosley has more left that BHOP.

[boxing_great]

i stopped reading when he put cal no1.

[Technical_Skill]

i stopped reading when he put cal no1.

Same here, some of the posts on NSB are hilarious at the moment, all of a sudden now calzaghe is better than Mayweather.

If calzaghe beats a past it roy jones, i reckon they'll compare him to ray robinson next.

To be honest, calzaghe is prolly better than ray robinson, its his workrate innit, and plus everyone knows jeff lacy fights exactly like ray robinson and calzaghe beat him, so he must be the best of all time.

[Left Hook Tua]

i think the top four are pretty clear here; lets look at their last 4 fights and see if we can agree on any sort of order
my order

1. Calzaghe - hopkins(hall of famer), kessler (undefeated unified champ), manfredo( contender at best) , lacy(undefeated champion)
2. Pacquiao - marquez(tough mexican champ in his prime) barrera(old guy should have been retired but HOFer) solis(is he even a fighter anymore) morales(see barrera)
3. Israel Vazquez- Rafael Marquez in 3 battles, won 2 of 3 battles and the war, Johnny gonzales (badass mexican)
4. Floyd Mayweather - Ricky Hatton (140 pound champ) OLDH (154 lb paper titlist) Zab Judah (contender), Carlos Baldomir (the luckiest fighter ever)

funny how you put joe over manny and for a hopkins win you put "HOFer" but for barrera and morales you put "old guy should have retired HOFer".

barrera and morales are about 10 years younger than bernard.

you can't put down the value of manny's wins against past prime HOFers if the guy you have above him has ONE win over a HOFer who is also past prime.

it's your list and p4p are subjective so that's fine but your explanation and reasoning is off basis.