The Most Limited, One Dimensional Boxers

[Allucard]

wladimir? cotto?? stop hating.

The list goes on and on. Yes Margarito also is in it. Sad to say but so is Williams although i still have faith he learns how to defend better and needs to be more accurate.

[Fox McCloud]

i hate to say it because i like him but KELLY PAVLIK.

People told me I was a ****ing idiot because I said Pavlik is one-dimensional.

How the **** is a fighter who throws a million 1-2's not one-dimensional? I haven't seen more than that. Even against Miranda, it was just the same thing. Coming forward, 1-2, 1-2, 1-2.

[Burning Desire]

Cotto, Hatton, Calzaghe, Pavlik, Mayorga.

Totally disagree with Cotto i have seen at least 3 different versions of Cotto, i have seen Cotto fight on the back foot against Ndou. I've seen him work patiently behind his jab and take apart Sosa, and i have seen the wreckless Cotto who was wobbled about 8 times against Torres, no way is Cotto 1 dimensional.

[NAPO]

People told me I was a ****ing idiot because I said Pavlik is one-dimensional.

How the **** is a fighter who throws a million 1-2's not one-dimensional? I haven't seen more than that. Even against Miranda, it was just the same thing. Coming forward, 1-2, 1-2, 1-2.

yeah sadly that's all he could do blind u with the left jab and then a strait right hand.

[Addison]

What is your definition of limited and one-dimensional?

Some people are construing it as a no skill piece of **** who just brawls it up.

I think of one-dimensional as a fighter who can't make effective adjustments past their plan A.

Kelly Pavlik is in trouble if someone figures out how to neutralize the 1-2.
Jeff Lacy is in trouble if he can't blow someone out of there in a couple of rounds or get someone to be truly intimidated.
Antonio Margarito is in trouble if someone has the footspeed to hit and get out of there.

As far as limited Boxers it's a wide open field. There are many, many to choose from. I think it's important that they all be highlighted and exposed.

I think I like some other people's interpretation of one dimensional better than mine.. You cited some excellent examples of various sort, DW421.

[Addison]

There are guys like Tyson and Judah who have tremendous gifts physically, but mentally aren't there. Physically solid, mentally weak. One dimension.

[Fox McCloud]

As far as limited Boxers it's a wide open field. There are many, many to choose from. I think it's important that they all be highlighted and exposed.

I think I like some other people's interpretation of one dimensional better than mine.. You cited some excellent examples of various sort, DW421.

You know someone who seems to have an impossible time making adjustments that might be added to this list?

Sugar Shane Mosley

That is the reason he was blown out twice in the first fight against my two favorite boxers. The only thing he did differently in the rematches was hide from their best weapon (Forrest's straight right and Wright's jab), but didn't manage to do anything significantly different. He didn't have an answer for Oscar's jab in their rematch for the most part.

He just seems to be kind of stuck in his style of fighting, and seems genuinely confused when he is being outdone.

[deanrw]

If that is the case, people could call Thomas Hearns one dimensional. If he is, well it carried him far.

Being "one dimensional" is just fine if you have other intangibles to back you up, such as Speed, Power, Toughness, Strength, Stamina, Heart. Even Height and Reach.

If you use the tools you have well, and package them correctly, it can be a huge wall for an opponent to climb.

[Addison]

You know someone who seems to have an impossible time making adjustments that might be added to this list?

Sugar Shane Mosley

That is the reason he was blown out twice in the first fight against my two favorite boxers. The only thing he did differently in the rematches was hide from their best weapon (Forrest's straight right and Wright's jab), but didn't manage to do anything significantly different. He didn't have an answer for Oscar's jab in their rematch for the most part.

He just seems to be kind of stuck in his style of fighting, and seems genuinely confused when he is being outdone.

Excellent post. I agree, absolutely. You can see the wheels turning inside his head. Now that is a struggle. And of course, when he does make an adjustment it's usually turned out pretty damn generic. Great insight. ^

[Dorian]

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