The Most Limited, One Dimensional Boxers

[Fox McCloud]

Here is something that I thought of...

Basically any elite fighter who gets completely dominated in a fight shows that they either:

A. Had an off night.
OR
B. Is one-dimensional.

An elite fighter should be able to make adjustments in order to at least win a few rounds when they are fighting from behind. If plan A isn't working, anyone who isn't one-dimensional should be able to surprise the fighter who is winning and steal a few rounds that way.

That is why I think Shane Mosley got put in that category. Wright and Forrest showed his lack of backup plan.

Diego Corrales showed his lack one-dimensional makeup against Floyd Mayweather Jr. That changed in his later fights (outboxing Casamayor in the rematch), but at that point, he was as one-dimensional as they come.

Some more examples are out there, I'm sure, but I can't think of them off-hand right now.

[aussieboxer2320]

some of these guys u are mentioning are very good fighters, sometimes having a simple style works, eg: pavlik

[Fox McCloud]

Manny Pacquaio definately used to be on the list, but I think he is able to box effectively now, which would take him off.

During the Marquez I/Barrera I and before period, all he was was a come forward, left-handed power puncher. Marquez showed that he didn't really have a backup plan in a lot of the rounds after the first round.

Pacquiao has really changed himself into a more complete fighter now.

[deanrw]

Here is something that I thought of...

Basically any elite fighter who gets completely dominated in a fight shows that they either:

A. Had an off night.
OR
B. Is one-dimensional.

An elite fighter should be able to make adjustments in order to at least win a few rounds when they are fighting from behind. If plan A isn't working, anyone who isn't one-dimensional should be able to surprise the fighter who is winning and steal a few rounds that way.

That is why I think Shane Mosley got put in that category. Wright and Forrest showed his lack of backup plan.

Diego Corrales showed his lack one-dimensional makeup against Floyd Mayweather Jr. That changed in his later fights (outboxing Casamayor in the rematch), but at that point, he was as one-dimensional as they come.

Some more examples are out there, I'm sure, but I can't think of them off-hand right now.

Every fighter out there has a stylistic nightmare. Some have not run into that opponent yet, but every fighter is limited to what was given to them. Some are able to overcome that stylistic nightmare, (Leonard Hearns 1) as an example, not by showing new tools or making a new game plan, but just grunting down and letting their heart take over.

Every fighter has limitations and can have their ass handed to them, there are no exceptions to the rule. A good fighter is a good fighter no matter their offensive and defensive arsenal. The intangibles I mentioned in my previous post more often than not, dictate the outcome of a fight between two good fighters.

[AntonTheMeh]

anyone who said cotto is obviously a hater.just about any fighter really.

[deanrw]

anyone who said cotto is obviously a hater.just about any fighter really.

Yeah a few on the lists are undefeated and/or dominant World Champions. I wish I was as one dimensional as them!hehe

[Fox McCloud]

Every fighter out there has a stylistic nightmare. Some have not run into that opponent yet, but every fighter is limited to what was given to them. Some are able to overcome that stylistic nightmare, (Leonard Hearns 1) as an example, not by showing new tools or making a new game plan, but just grunting down and letting their heart take over.

Every fighter has limitations and can have their ass handed to them, there are no exceptions to the rule. A good fighter is a good fighter no matter their offensive and defensive arsenal. The intangibles I mentioned in my previous post more often than not, dictate the outcome of a fight between two good fighters.

Please keep in mind that one-dimensional does not disqualify a fighter from being good. Kelly Pavlik is one-dimensional. Kelly Pavlik is a good fighter. The truly great elite fighters are the ones who can at least make a fight against their stylistic nightmare a close loss, or even a win.

If you can't adjust at all effectively when you are losing, you are probably one-dimensional.

Tarver against Hopkins showed that he was having a bad night, but even on a good night, he is so one-dimensional, being a defensive first 1-2 fighter, that it probably wouldn't have made much of a difference.

anyone who said cotto is obviously a hater.just about any fighter really.

Anyone who said Cotto hasn't seen his fights, is a hater or is just a ****ing idiot. That dude has more angles to his game than Mayweather. Cotto can box, brawl, pressure, pretty much everything. I haven't seen anything like it since Marco Antonio Barrera.

[AntonTheMeh]

Yeah a few on the lists are undefeated and/or dominant World Champions. I wish I was as one dimensional as them!hehe

pretty much.you see most fighters do the same thing they do every fight.

[AntonTheMeh]

Please keep in mind that one-dimensional does not disqualify a fighter from being good. Kelly Pavlik is one-dimensional. Kelly Pavlik is a good fighter. The truly great elite fighters are the ones who can at least make a fight against their stylistic nightmare a close loss, or even a win.

If you can't adjust at all effectively when you are losing, you are probably one-dimensional.

Tarver against Hopkins showed that he was having a bad night, but even on a good night, he is so one-dimensional, being a defensive first 1-2 fighter, that it probably wouldn't have made much of a difference.



Anyone who said Cotto hasn't seen his fights, is a hater or is just a ****ing idiot. That dude has more angles to his game than Mayweather. Cotto can box, brawl, pressure, pretty much everything. I haven't seen anything like it since Marco Antonio Barrera.

yeah.i'd say marquez cotto floyd and hop are in that boat.

[Left Hook Tua]

pretty much.you see most fighters do the same thing they do every fight.

agreed.

if it ain't broke why fix it?

their style got them to where they are.

you can always adds thing to your arsenal which is a good thing but once you start catching overhands or hooks most fighters revert to what is nature for them. a lot of great fighters don't change their style and loss because of it but there's also a lot of bad ones that change and make adjustments all the time and it doesn't change a thing.