You Cotto Guys Are F$%@# Hypocrites

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I said What What? In The Butt?

[Primal Instinx]

Who's comparing Floyd to Mosley? Are you saying that if Mosley was able to get off those same shots against Floyd he'd hit him even more? LOL

What I said was that when Cotto and Floyd fought Judah, Zab hit Cotto A LOT MORE THAN HE HIT FLOYD, and using this as proof that Cotto is NOT a better boxer than Floyd.

Also, I hate to validate my opinion by referencing majority opinion, but since you say that P4P #1 opinion varies from writer to writer, name me ONE that has Cotto higher than Floyd.

Yeah right Zab was taking it to Floyd in the first four rounds and hit Floyd far more than he Cotto. He even started back up in the later rounds. Besides there is no measuring stick to see who would beat who because of similar opponents until they step in the ring. But if you want to compare and contrast every opponent that Floyd and Cotto faced Cotto has destroyed and we just witnessed that Cotto destroyed Gomaz who destroyed Gatti so in essence Cotto outdid Floyd again...but let's be honest just because Cotto destroyed everyone this doesn't mean that he will destroy Floyd so everything else is speculative at this point until they meet in the ring. I just say since Floyd fans are so sure he would win and since Cotto fans are sure he would win let's just promote this fight and make it happen.

[Doctor Sam]

The only problem with ur argumen is that zab did not hit floyd more then he hit cotto by any stretch of the imagination. Even in the first 4 rounds which is a myth.... looking for the punch stats now

[Primal Instinx]

The only problem with ur argumen is that zab did not hit floyd more then he hit cotto by any stretch of the imagination. Even in the first 4 rounds which is a myth.... looking for the punch stats now

Doctor Sam: I stand corrected I found the stats from Compubox. Overall, Cotto landed 292 of 683 total punches (43%) to 132 of 459 (29%) for Judah. Cotto also landed 214 of 481 power shots (44%) to 90 of 159 (57%) for Judah. Floyd Mayweather landed 205 total punches (46%) vs. Judah over 12 rounds, while Zab landed just 89 total punches punches vs. Floyd (18%).


Well, I never said Floyd's defense was never genius. That's why I just can't wait for the Cotto v Mayweather fight. Because no matter how much we argue about who is better at doing what it will not matter until they get into the ring. But at least you can say I admit when I got something wrong since most fans get sidetracked by their beliefs and not admit when they are wrong.

[machotime]

Until FLoyd has the balls to fight Cotto who is the best and most credible opponent that would be on his record, nobody will know who wins the fight... Problem is that he likes to fight fighters that he has already beat or havent beat anyone in over 4 years but have a name. To him its about the money not the competition and if people cant see that then they are blind.

Just looking back at what Cotto has done in the recent past: 3 of the fighters he demolished are current world Champions, 3 fighters that he has demolished and/or convincingly beat are top 10 welterweight contenders. 3 of the common fighters that he and Mayweather have were all demolished and KOed by Cotto only to be decisioned by Mayweather.

[Doctor Sam]

Doctor Sam: I stand corrected I found the stats from Compubox. Overall, Cotto landed 292 of 683 total punches (43%) to 132 of 459 (29%) for Judah. Cotto also landed 214 of 481 power shots (44%) to 90 of 159 (57%) for Judah. Floyd Mayweather landed 205 total punches (46%) vs. Judah over 12 rounds, while Zab landed just 89 total punches punches vs. Floyd (18%).


Well, I never said Floyd's defense was never genius. That's why I just can't wait for the Cotto v Mayweather fight. Because no matter how much we argue about who is better at doing what it will not matter until they get into the ring. But at least you can say I admit when I got something wrong since most fans get sidetracked by their beliefs and not admit when they are wrong.

See this is how it should be. Fans that aknowledge when they are wrong on certain aspects of thier analysis. Thanks for the thought out and non bias response. cheers!

[Horus]

I agree that saying Cotto has the same ability to do what Floyd does is ludicrous. Floyd is Floyd and Miguelito is Miguelito.

What Cotto CAN do well is enough to potentially beat Floyd. Cotto matches up about as well or better than anyone Floyd has ever faced because he possesses so many qualities, in theory, which would trouble Floyd.

The best part about a matchup between these two is that they represent, at least in my opinion, the very best of every opponent the other guy has faced in one package. Cotto takes Castillo's infighting/body attack and Gatti's heart and combines that with Oscar's ramrod jab/selectiveness and Hatton's aggressiveness. Not to the extreme obviously, but he works all of those things into one deadly package.

Floyd on the other hand takes everything that Cotto's opponents did well against him and multiplies that by 100. He is nearly a complete package. He has the hand speed of Judah, elusiveness and foot speed of Malignaggi, combination punching of Mosley, and counter punching ability of Quintana. He just does those things better than most of those guys. Again, Floyd combines these things and adds his own technique and defense to make an incredible fighter.

The best part about these two is that they are both intelligent and they both make adjustments throughout their fights. How many of Floyd's best opponents made a noticeable adjustment in their fight to put them in a position to REALLY win the fight? Not many I can think of. Corrales was just a lost cause out there, Castillo just went with the same game plan hoping it'd send Floyd to the glue factory, and Oscar couldn't live with Floyd late in their fight after Floyd started timing right hands.

Cotto has fought all of these different types of fighters at different levels so he can make adjustments to win fights. Against Quintana he picked up his timing and made the adjustment, against Mosley he started boxing off the back foot when Mosley started to first box and then come forward, against Judah he served up a few low blows and started moving in behind the jab to offset Judah's uppercuts.

We know that Floyd is as good as they come at making adjustments and staying true to his game plan down the stretch. He is very mentally tough, maybe his best asset. Guy has a mind like a steel trap. I think Cotto's best asset which rarely is spoken about (except by me quite often, I think I sound like a broken record) is his ability to dictate range and control space. He can force you to fight and he is always in position to punch. I think these guys would really bring out the best in each other.

As for Margarito, Cotto will have success with his jab and lateral movement, but he WILL be forced to fight. It'll be interesting to see if Margarito will have as much success on the inside against Cotto as he had against Cintron. I doubt he will. Cintron was a TALL opponent who didn't know how to handle himself well inside. As a result, MArgarito was able to get off with those uppercuts which had a lot of leverage on them. Cotto is a smaller man who knows how to fight inside. Margarito won't be able to get off with the effective chopping right hands and uppercuts quite as much.

Antonio should be able to time the uppercut as Cotto is coming in. He has done this well with smaller opponents in the past, most recently Golden Johnson (even though Johnson was a can). Cotto will have to throw that disrupting jab to get time to fire off the left/right to the body, dip out and step around to keep MArgarito turning.

It's gonna be one hell of a fight. Wow, long post.

Long Post Just show that You put effort into adding Context behind your points...Instead of saying "Cotto will kill Mayweather" or "Floyd will Kill Cotto"

You added why these things might occur.....
Long Post are sometimes irrelevant when they are not back up with points,evidence,a sound argument, and History...

But when you add a sound argument,history, and facts....
a Long Post is great to read...!!


I RESPECT POSTERS LIKE YOU...

[IwatchBoxing]

Nobodys looking at Margarito the same since Clottey, Cottos looking foward to december even tho its gonna be a good toe to toe fight.

[x3_bazooka_x3]

Exactly what I have been saying, Cotto is tailor made for Margarito if you ask me, and for Floyd to be honest, both Floyd and Tony love those right uppercuts, a shot that has put cotto on his ass before, a shot that has left him wobbled and staggerd, I am sorry but Cotto vs Margarito in my eyes is a fight that brings closer a Margarito vs Mayweather fight.

[Shalafi]

Exactly what I have been saying, Cotto is tailor made for Margarito if you ask me, and for Floyd to be honest, both Floyd and Tony love those right uppercuts, a shot that has put cotto on his ass before, a shot that has left him wobbled and staggerd, I am sorry but Cotto vs Margarito in my eyes is a fight that brings closer a Margarito vs Mayweather fight.

Wise words from a smart man, I like that.