Miguel "The Surgeon" Cotto

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  • WetSexyLlamaPR
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    #51
    Tito's illegal wraps story at least had some (truthfully or untruthfully depending on your viewpoint) basis with certain fighters complaining about it. I haven't read a single story of a whistle blower calling him on this so I'm going to have to go with a negatory on this one. He's not doing anything illegal. Plus Reyes gloves are punchers gloves and they definitely look it....

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    • oldgringo
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      #52
      Originally posted by -Antonio-
      Look at the pic I posted.
      The Addison propaganda machine strikes? Methinks the answer is yes...

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      • !! Shawn
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        #53
        Originally posted by crazylegs77
        Got it.

        Yeah I figured it was to make the foam above the knuckles compressed so the impact would be with more force and less cushioning of the blow. It makes sense if the glove is pulled tight the foam would be compressed as well but like you said in an earlier post as the fight went on the glove would lose the skinning effect pretty quickly.

        I was thinking if there ws a way to make it more permanent, like by forcibly compressing the foam under high pressure to make it less effective.
        Exactly. It loses its effect very fast, and because it is not a permanent change, it is really a non issue, and in fact is probably more detrimental to the fighter with the skinned gloves.

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        • -Antonio-
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          #54


          Barrera has been called out on this I believe.

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          • -Antonio-
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            #55
            Originally posted by oldgringo
            The Addison propaganda machine strikes? Methinks the answer is yes...
            Yes indeed. People actually fall for it too.

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            • Scoooter
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              #56
              Part of it has to do with the fact that he doesn't have that much power. Above average to be sure, but not the one-and-done stuff of the likes of Tommy Hearns. So, he'll catch you clean on the face with a hard shot, but you won't go down, you won't go back, you probably won't get wobbled or buzzed, you'll just feel it. Big time. And he'll hit you again and again and again until the accumulation (and subsequent damage) makes you stop. Plus, his reliance on the body attack is obvious.

              It's similar to the situation with Kelly Pavlik. He won't Julian Jackson, backfoot cold-**** you, but he'll wear your face into mush over a series of rounds. Look what happened to Edison Miranda.

              I think there's a term that can be applied, one that describes a puncher's power in rather abstract and scientifically unfounded terms, but nevertheless seems to be quite apt in the occasionally physically counterintuitve world of boxing. "Heavy handed". Kelly Pavlik and Miguel Cotto are heavy handed, in the sense that, no matter where they hit you, it hurts, and it feels like they're actually packing rocks instead of fists.

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              • WetSexyLlamaPR
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                #57
                Originally posted by Scoooter
                Part of it has to do with the fact that he doesn't have that much power. Above average to be sure, but not the one-and-done stuff of the likes of Tommy Hearns. So, he'll catch you clean on the face with a hard shot, but you won't go down, you won't go back, you probably won't get wobbled or buzzed, you'll just feel it. Big time. And he'll hit you again and again and again until the accumulation (and subsequent damage) makes you stop. Plus, his reliance on the body attack is obvious.

                It's similar to the situation with Kelly Pavlik. He won't Julian Jackson, backfoot cold-**** you, but he'll wear your face into mush over a series of rounds. Look what happened to Edison Miranda.

                I think there's a term that can be applied, one that describes a puncher's power in rather abstract and scientifically unfounded terms, but nevertheless seems to be quite apt in the occasionally physically counterintuitve world of boxing. "Heavy handed". Kelly Pavlik and Miguel Cotto are heavy handed, in the sense that, no matter where they hit you, it hurts, and it feels like they're actually packing rocks instead of fists.
                Good post. I agree with that entirely.

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                • !! Shawn
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Addison
                  No difference? That tape isn't even touching the label.

                  Look at the shape of the glove. It's absolutely crushed, dense with pressure.

                  Fortunately, leather is a elastic material, and after a little work, conforms to the original intended shape.

                  That level of taping goes beyond skinning, and I am guessing that Cotto feels more secure with his wrist immobilized.

                  If anything, I would that that level of taping would compromise his defense.

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                  • Addison
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by oldgringo
                    The Addison propaganda machine strikes? Methinks the answer is yes...
                    I know you're a huge fan, but it's irresponsible of you to make such a remark. Don't think it escapes me who I'm debating with. The same old fans. It doesn't matter if it's low blows or pressurized gloves. Cotto didn't do it and it didn't help him. Pretty disgusting to be honest..

                    One thing I will never lose is my objectivity. That's why you've seen me cross the battle lines countless times and pay tribute to the truth.

                    I have my integrity.
                    Last edited by Addison; 04-14-2008, 01:45 AM. Reason: spell

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                      #60
                      Nitpicking at best Addison. Cotto is just extremely consistant and accurate. They tape him tight, but it's effect is being overexageraed.

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