Calzaghe and Hopkins heated exchange

[IMDAZED]

Pick Bernards toughest wins, and Joe's easiest wins, hmmmm.

Just because the names weren't so big in some places, doesn't mean they weren't tough fights. Lets not forget he ruined Eubank and most of whats come his way since hasn't challenged him as much, esp from usa. He beat Kessler, whom is undisputedly good apart from to Hopkins. Kessler and Eubank would kick the **** out of Bernard all day long. Hopkins may challenge as much or more than Kessler perhaps yes, but Calzaghes favourite for a reason my friend.

You are delusional. Eubank was well past it when he fought him.

[Bobby Shaw]

Benard all the way.
Joe spend a decade fighting builders,barmen and geriatrics,this time he's going down

[xfiles]

I don't think Hopkins is the biggest puncher JC has faced, so I can't see Bernard's right hand doing any significant damage. JC's chin is too good for that.

It's not about being the bigger puncher. It's about timing and accuracy.

[bluemax]

Everyone bet on Hopkins, he's the Man!!!! I have all my money on Calzaghe and I need to drive the odds in Hopkins favor for a bigger payday... Yeah!! Hopkins is the man Boy!! he looked awesome in losing to Jermain Taylor.....twice!!! He'll win this easy I'm just kiddin bet the house on Hopkins
he can't possibly lose to Calzaghe

[FRKO]

It's not about being the bigger puncher. It's about timing and accuracy.

Sometimes, yes. Not always. They can be as well-timed as you want but if they lack the necessary power to affect the other fighters' performance there's no guarantee they'll win you the fight. Sure, they will affect De La Hoya, Trinidad, etc., but Trinidad, Wright and De La Hoya are not what I consider great wins, they are just major names. Their names became famous because of the success they'd had at lower weights, right?

Trinidad, as I'm sure many of you are aware, started out as a junior welterweight (140 lbs) and his best work was done as a welterweight. As soon as he moved up and fought elite level fighters in higher weight classes, three L's (Hopkins, Wright, Jones) arrived on his resume. Trinidad is not built for, and doesn't belong in, these weight classes. Small guy, and too underpowered to make a serious dent in heavier fighters. No need for further elaboration. (Just don't ever be tempted to go near a guy named Joe Calzaghe, Tito).

De La Hoya is a guy who started out as a 134 lb super featherweight, in case anyone had forgotten. He didn't belong anywhere near a ring with Hopkins at middleweight, as was proven when he was KO'd by a Hopkins body shot.

Joe Calzaghe would certainly have destroyed Trinidad and De La Hoya, too, had he ever fought them. A fight with Wright would have been closer but I don't see Calzaghe losing to Winky. It'd be a guy who's ideal natural weight class has been light middleweight but with many fights at welterweight, in fact -- his 21st pro fight was at 147, going up against a guy who started out/has ended up at light heavy, and who's ideal class is at least super middle. Winky was approx. 16 lbs over his limit when he fought Hopkins, so once again, this is not what I consider a particularly great win.

That's three of the biggest names on Bernard's list, which, to the casual fan/observer, look pretty good for the resume, until you dissect the weight divisions, then they become somewhat slightly unconvincing, which leaves us with Antonio Tarver and Glen Johnson as the "meat and potatoes" of Hopkins' list of victims. Those were pretty decent wins, but then again, I have my reservations... Hopkins took Johnson to school, but really, are there any surprises here? Consider that Johnson was 32-0-0 at that point in his career but had fought no-one particularly noteworthy. A win over Johnson is solid, not special. We also know that Tarver, having had to shed a huge amount of weight after doing the Rocky movie, was nowhere near being at his best. Is Antonio Tarver really that great anyway? Still, Hopkins' best wins were Glen Johnson and Antonio Tarver. Winky, Tito and Oscar were way outside of their ideal weight classes, and, therefore, should be only semi-relevant to the overall picture.

So there you go. In my opinion, Hopkins is a great fighter, he's actually quite high up on my list. This is not a hate post, but by looking from an unbiased viewpoint and throwing in some facts, it's not difficult to see that Hopkins is possibly not quite as great as some make him out to be. You can be a fan and remain objective.

If Hops beats Calzaghe convincingly he gets major respect from me. Like him or hate him, Joe is no bum. If he was, Bernard wouldn't need a "dream team" to help him out, now would he? Naw, 'cause he's "gonna make Joe look amateur and make beating him look easy", gonna "make him cry", and so on and so forth. Bernard should have enough years of experience at 43 years old to stand on his own two feet. I mean come on, this is just some skinny Welsh lad with his old man in the corner barking instructions -- no need to call the army, ffs! Southpaw specialists, nutrition guru's, fire fighters, hired hitmen... bring whatever. The more ammo you gotta bring to the battle, the more you're anticipating defeat.

[apollo creed]

Bernards resume kicks Joes ass. Taylor and winky wright both kick manfredo and lacys asses any day of the week.

And Kessler kicks both Winkys and Taylors asses, and also Tarvers.

[CardioMonster]

that wasn`t very heated, in fact it was pretty mild, very entertaining though...i didn`t think either fighter got the upper hand, Calzaghe isn`t much of a **** talker, and Hopkins just repeats the same sentence over and over again. I'd score that a draw.

I like Calzaghe in this fight, although i hope Hopkins comes to fight, and doesn`t try and pick pocket Calzaghe on the cards by turning into into a borefest. Who am i kidding?!

[FRKO]

You are delusional. Eubank was well past it when he fought him.

Nonsense! Chris was only 31. Joe is 36 and Bernard is 43!

[apollo creed]

You are delusional. Eubank was well past it when he fought him.

Bull****

You could see in his fights at Cruiser he was still very much a great fighter.

Id say against Calzaghe hje was still at 90%.

[apollo creed]

The thing about all this trash talking is Calzaghe is saying in basicly everyone of his interviews that he knows Bernard is trying to get in his head.

That means Bernard has lost the mind games, Calzaghe has not taking the bait, he's not gonna fight angry.

Bernards ****ed!