Miguel Cotto To Dump Evangelista as Trainer?

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  • wmute
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    #81
    Originally posted by Asian Sensation
    KILLING IN THE NAME OF!!!

    FREEDOM!!!!!
    Just started high school at the time... their first album was unbelievable

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    • wmute
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      #82
      As for Trainers, Nacho would be wonderful for Miguel.

      And imagine the best mexican trainer + the best PR fighter team up against the american p4p king, that would be aweosme.

      I dont see why change Evangelista, they seem to be working fine during fights, Miguel makes the adjustments after Evangelista makes his calls, which are mostly right.

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      • baya
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        #83
        Originally posted by wmute
        I am afraid that another ratm album might sounds like Leonard later comebacks (Leonard-Norris).
        difference being that those songs'll be written by de la rocha - not de la hoya.

        don't lose faith, zach'll make it work.

        but yeah, the fusion of black hole sun and car like a bomb should have fared much better, even though the album wasn't THAT bad.

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        • cortdawg25
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          #84
          Originally posted by baya
          i suppose you can assume that a problematic split will happen, but thats speculation.

          spitzer's a case of abuse, i'm talking about doing a better job w/out being that ******* and trying to establish yourself as a dependable worker bee who gets first dibs on future openings and the such.

          take floyd, you're a fan of his, i'm not trying to switch this up on you or anything but now i'm intrigued since you've said the word loyalty so many times. how do you support a fighter who fires and kicks out onto the street his father, who has clearly shown nothing but self-interest (good for him) yet you put cotto's situation out there like its in a class of its own?

          i didn't judge mayweather when he did that, i didn't have to question his class or caliber of person because mayweather has always demonstrated that lack, but never did i thrust into question what type of guy he was.

          dudes beef all the time, has nothing to do with moral standing or the like and everything to do with guys just not feeling each other anymore. you ever have a friend who you just don't click with after a while?
          Good, I'm glad u brought up Floyd and his father and loyalty. I also used words like always and supportive. See his father wasn't always around and always supportive despite whatever his father says. That is difference in the relationship. Evangelista ain't been nothing but a ryda (from outside looking in anyways). And I think that is weak based on what i know about their relationship. Big Floyd has been in and out of Floyd life for certain reasons and is an egomaniac and just can't fall back and play his position.

          But i see your point, I can't say Floyd is the most classy person in the world. But he has never tried to portay himself as classy and righteous like Cotto or fans portay him to be. i guess what i'm saying is, alot of people on this site check fighters, in particular Floyd for his arrogance and other undesirable traits so check Cotto for his mishaps and/or character flaws.

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          • cortdawg25
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            #85
            Originally posted by Asian Sensation
            During the second Vargas fight, Jack Mosley noticed that Vargas' legs were shot. He told Shane Mosley to move around on him and to box him. Why? When your opponent has no legs thats when you go after him.
            Not necessarily. If he is hurt and his legs are weak then I would agree. But if his legs are just tired, make him use them even more.

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            • Tobi.G
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              #86
              I think it would be a bad move if Cotto dumps his uncle! His uncle trained him ever since hes a pro and hes doing verry well, never change a winning team! And hiring McGirt as a trainer would be the dumbest Cotto could do!!

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                #87
                Originally posted by cortdawg25
                Good, I'm glad u brought up Floyd and his father and loyalty. I also used words like always and supportive. See his father wasn't always around and always supportive despite whatever his father says. That is difference in the relationship. Evangelista ain't been nothing but a ryda (from outside looking in anyways). And I think that is weak based on what i know about their relationship. Big Floyd has been in and out of Floyd life for certain reasons and is an egomaniac and just can't fall back and play his position.

                But i see your point, I can't say Floyd is the most classy person in the world. But he has never tried to portay himself as classy and righteous like Cotto or fans portay him to be. i guess what i'm saying is, alot of people on this site check fighters, in particular Floyd for his arrogance and other undesirable traits so check Cotto for his mishaps and/or character flaws.

                Floyd's only loyalty is to that of money. Even when the issue of Roger training Forbes was brought up, Floyd's understanding or comparison to the situation was of money. Where as most people in Floyd's position would question Roger's decision to train Forbes due to fact that he is Roger's blood related nephew, Floyd could not understand why Roger would gamble with so much money on the line.

                Floyd was upset at the fact that Roger wasn't thinking like a business man. I would had been upset at the fact that Roger wasnt thinking like family.

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                • Mr. Ryan
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by cortdawg25
                  Not necessarily. If he is hurt and his legs are weak then I would agree. But if his legs are just tired, make him use them even more.
                  That's when you jump on them. A man with no legs is defenseless.

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                  • AntonTheMeh
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                    #89
                    I think it's a good thing that he's thinking outside the box.tito didn't dare so he never improved,though his daddy is his daddy i think he would've gotten better with another trainer maybe manny at the time.you look at zab roy and mosley,and they're all similar,they have incredible NATURAL athletic ability,with which in my opinion they would've had success with other trainers regardless.

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                    • wmute
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by ANTONIM
                      I think it's a good thing that he's thinking outside the box.tito didn't dare so he never improved,though his daddy is his daddy i think he would've gotten better with another trainer maybe manny at the time.you look at zab roy and mosley,and they're all similar,they have incredible NATURAL athletic ability,with which in my opinion they would've had success with other trainers regardless.
                      I completely agree. Let me add... who had the best career of those you mentioned? The one who switched trainer frome his father to someone else.

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