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  • Silencers
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    #31
    Originally posted by Scott9945
    Taylor was looking at his trainer and didn't hear Steele through the incredibly loud crowd noise. Nobody is questioning that he was hurt, but he was standing up straight on his own and deserved to hear the decision.

    Frazier had kidney damage and his face looked as bad as Taylor's. He spent a lot more time in the hospital than Meldrick did. Taylor fought less than FIVE months after the Chavez fight. Do you think he could have possibly fought that soon (in Nevada) if he were so badly hurt in that fight?
    Then you should blame Duva more than anybody because he had no business jumping on the ring apron and distracting Taylor, if a fighter doesn't answer a referee's questions, especially when the referee asks him the same question twice, I think a stoppage is in order.

    I blame Duva for the stoppage, Steele did his job IMO.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Left2body
      That is a totally wrong half truth. Its situational awareness that is needed.

      For instance Gatti-Ward I.
      If you look at the amount of punches and damage either Individual took you could argue that they should've stopped it much earlier. However the SITUATION was that they were BOTH inflicting this damage and were BOTH competitive. The ref took the entire situation into consideration and allowed it to continue.

      Time left in a round is definitely a factor and is part of the situational awareness a ref needs.
      Gatti-ward, each man is up throwing and excepting bombs.
      Taylor-Chavez, one man down and bloodied after a war and one man looking to end it in the other corner.

      Through the Usa Boxing and Association of Boxing Commisions rule book for referees you will find no where in there that decisions in a fight will be rendered after considration of time remaining. Its either that way or the other, no matter how much time is left.............Rockin'

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        #33
        Originally posted by silencers98
        Then you should blame Duva more than anybody because he had no business jumping on the ring apron and distracting Taylor, if a fighter doesn't answer a referee's questions, especially when the referee asks him the same question twice, I think a stoppage is in order.

        I blame Duva for the stoppage, Steele did his job IMO.
        And how!!!!!!!!!!!...............Rockin'

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        • Scott9945
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          #34
          Originally posted by silencers98
          Then you should blame Duva more than anybody because he had no business jumping on the ring apron and distracting Taylor, if a fighter doesn't answer a referee's questions, especially when the referee asks him the same question twice, I think a stoppage is in order.

          I blame Duva for the stoppage, Steele did his job IMO.

          Duva absolutely did blow it for his fighter. First by telling Taylor he needed to win the round to get the win, then by distracting his fighter. But to me the bottom line is that it was Steele who pulled the plug on a great fight, and bears that responsibility. Some refs like Steele and Cortez like to be too much a part of the show, instead of just arbitrating it.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Scott9945
            Duva absolutely did blow it for his fighter. First by telling Taylor he needed to win the round to get the win, then by distracting his fighter. But to me the bottom line is that it was Steele who pulled the plug on a great fight, and bears that responsibility. Some refs like Steele and Cortez like to be too much a part of the show, instead of just arbitrating it.
            I understand where you are coming from, but I think Steele had the right to pull the plug.

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              #36
              Originally posted by silencers98
              I understand where you are coming from, but I think Steele had the right to pull the plug.

              That's cool, we'll just respectfully disagree.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Scott9945
                That's cool, we'll just respectfully disagree.
                Yeah, we'll just do that.

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                  #38
                  Meldrick taylor deserved to win the fight but it was a good stoppage. I blame duva more than steele. Duva was telling him he needed the last round to win when everyone knew he didn't. If steele didn't stop the fight and chavez quickly came in with another hard straight right, then what? Sure some people say there wasn't enough time but the ref wasn't keeping track of time he was carefully watching both fighters.

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                    #39
                    I'm always up for this I guess.. Anyway, Steele was completely over the top. It was way past dramatic the way he acted. When he asked Meldrick if he was ok it was purely rhetorical. He was going to stop it regardless, why nobody knows. He waved it off in literally 1.5 seconds. That's horse****.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Addison
                      I'm always up for this I guess.. Anyway, Steele was completely over the top. It was way past dramatic the way he acted. When he asked Meldrick if he was ok it was purely rhetorical. He was going to stop it regardless, why nobody knows. He waved it off in literally 1.5 seconds. That's horse****.
                      when someone beats you till your mentally handycap and are pissing blood.. you lost the fight... that's what I know.

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