Chavez / Taylor was a Good Call

[Scott9945]

Hearns hadn't taken the punishment Taylor had and Taylor didn't answer Steele. Taylor had to go to the hospital after the fight because he was peeing blood and had fractured bones in his face, I wouldn't call that over dramatizing.

He didn't even ask Hearns if he was ok, and Tommy was out seconds later. What I meant by overdramatizing is how people rewrite history and pretend like Meldrick was a vegetable after that fight. He moved up and won the welterweight title later. Joe Frazier suffered from the same type of afflictions you described after the first Ali fight. Nobody thought that one should have been stopped.

[Rockin']

Agree completely, I like Richard Steele as a ref but that was a horrible call. The ref has to have situational awareness.

When you are reffing you have little knowledge of the time remaining in a round. You have a geberal notion but you dont know for sure.

The only concern of the referee is to keep it clean and to keep the fighters "safe". It matters not the time................Rockin'

[Rockin']

He didn't even ask Hearns if he was ok, and Tommy was out seconds later. What I meant by overdramatizing is how people rewrite history and pretend like Meldrick was a vegetable after that fight. He moved up and won the welterweight title later. Joe Frazier suffered from the same type of afflictions you described after the first Ali fight. Nobody thought that one should have been stopped.

I dont think that any of you arguing that the stoppage was wrong have any idea or clue as to the actual punishment you take in the pro ring. Not a clue...........Rockin'

[Scott9945]

Originally Posted by Scott9945 Steele was all about protecting the house fighter, Julio Cesar Chavez

.......Rockin'

I guess it was BS when he stopped the Tyson-Ruddock fight too early to protect the housefighter that time. Or when he gave Hearns the chance to continue to fight Barkley when he couldn't even stand up straight. You'd have to be pretty naive to think that refs aren't conscious of this type of thing.

[Silencers]

He didn't even ask Hearns if he was ok, and Tommy was out seconds later. What I meant by overdramatizing is how people rewrite history and pretend like Meldrick was a vegetable after that fight. He moved up and won the welterweight title later. Joe Frazier suffered from the same type of afflictions you described after the first Ali fight. Nobody thought that one should have been stopped.

Frazier wasn't down and not answering the referee. I don't remember him having and broken bones in his face either, I think he had high blood pressure after the fight and was hospitalized.

Taylor was never the same after the Chavez fight, not a vegetable but he was never the same.

[Thread Stealer]

Taylor was never the same after the Chavez fight, not a vegetable but he was never the same.

He was still a good fighter though, just not what he was once before.

[Rockin']

Originally Posted by Scott9945 Steele was all about protecting the house fighter, Julio Cesar Chavez

I guess it was BS when he stopped the Tyson-Ruddock fight too early to protect the housefighter that time. Or when he gave Hearns the chance to continue to fight Barkley when he couldn't even stand up straight. You'd have to be pretty naive to think that refs aren't conscious of this type of thing.

I am a referee and I am fully conscious of that type of thing. I call it as I see it and when I go to bed at night after bouts I may not have made "the right call" to please the fans but I know that the fighter I save will fight another day and boxing will not have another knock against it..............Rockin'

[Silencers]

He was still a good fighter though, just not what he was once before.

True, he was still a pretty good fighter but he was never the same Meldrick Taylor.

[Scott9945]

Frazier wasn't down and not answering the referee. I don't remember him having and broken bones in his face either, I think he had high blood pressure after the fight and was hospitalized.

Taylor was never the same after the Chavez fight, not a vegetable but he was never the same.

Taylor was looking at his trainer and didn't hear Steele through the incredibly loud crowd noise. Nobody is questioning that he was hurt, but he was standing up straight on his own and deserved to hear the decision.

Frazier had kidney damage and his face looked as bad as Taylor's. He spent a lot more time in the hospital than Meldrick did. Taylor fought less than FIVE months after the Chavez fight. Do you think he could have possibly fought that soon (in Nevada) if he were so badly hurt in that fight?

[Left2body]

When you are reffing you have little knowledge of the time remaining in a round. You have a geberal notion but you dont know for sure.

The only concern of the referee is to keep it clean and to keep the fighters "safe". It matters not the time................Rockin'

That is a totally wrong half truth. Its situational awareness that is needed.

For instance Gatti-Ward I.
If you look at the amount of punches and damage either Individual took you could argue that they should've stopped it much earlier. However the SITUATION was that they were BOTH inflicting this damage and were BOTH competitive. The ref took the entire situation into consideration and allowed it to continue.

Time left in a round is definitely a factor and is part of the situational awareness a ref needs.