..BEST PURE BOXER: Mayweather Or Calderon?...

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  • THe TRiNiTY
    Sugar-Will O'-Hurricane
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    #11
    Originally posted by pbftxrs316
    floyd is still better imo, because he moved up and dominated huge punchers with his boxing ability. calderon imo is 2nd only to floyd, because i have seen many of his fights, he in unquestionably, the best pure boxer next to floyd, he is amazing to watch. the only prblem with him is that he doesn't move up. floyd has dominated his opposition and has a much better defense and this is very important in a contact sport like boxing, the art of hit and don't get hit. that makes a great boxer, but seeing how calderon is fast on his feet and has only six knockouts, he is impressive to the max to watch. floyd though, takes more risks, and p4p, he'd be a favorite in any fight to win, because of his amazing defense, and fluent movement, and add to this, floyd's accuracy is much better than ivan's. compare ivan to floyd at 130. i would love to see this comparison.
    Well said, the only problem is that Ivan would be HORRIBLE if he moved up. He's so small, it's almost impossible. Floyd grew, Calderon just HASN'T. It's kinda unfortunate, but it's the truth.

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    • Kball15
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      #12
      I think hands down its Calderon.

      Mayweather isnt as good from the outside as Calderon is. And while Mayweathers defense is overall better then Calderons, Calderons footwork and movement is better then Mayweathers.

      Mayweather however, is among the best in-fighters in the world today when he actually fights on the inside. So overall, Mayweather is definetly the better fighter IMO

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        Sugar-Will O'-Hurricane
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        #13
        Originally posted by Kball15
        I think hands down its Calderon.

        Mayweather isnt as good from the outside as Calderon is. And while Mayweathers defense is overall better then Calderons, Calderons footwork and movement is better then Mayweathers.

        Mayweather however, is among the best in-fighters in the world today when he actually fights on the inside. So overall, Mayweather is definetly the better fighter IMO
        Pretty well said. Good K your way.

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        • -Hyperion-
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          #14
          calderon is the most overrated fighter ever....

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          • BROOKLYN CESAR
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            #15
            Calderon is an awesome boxer his skill llevel is amazing!!! but i still think floyd is a touch better not too much better though!!! Its a tough call!!!

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            • VERSION1 (V1)
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              #16
              Originally posted by Migs
              That makes two of us which really bums me out because I hear all these great things about the guy. I love a good boxer. I can't vote until I've seen some of his fights.
              yeah me too never seen him but all i hear is he is one of the best boxer other than floyd or maybe eqaul or better than him but won't vote till i see for myself

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                #17
                Originally posted by -Hyperion-
                calderon is the most overrated fighter ever....
                OK. State your case.

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                • SupremeElectron
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                  #18
                  Calderon, imo, is unwatchable. For all the criticism that Floyd has taken in the past (and present) for his overly mobile style of fighting, Calderon has him faded to the 5th power.

                  Calderon is always in constant, back pedaling motion and he doesn't throw a lot of punches. The fight with Cazares was a joke; he should have lost that fight. He ran for the majority of that fight.

                  Mayweather does move a lot as well, but at Floyd will, at some point in the fight, stand stilll and trade blows.

                  Ivan Calderon doesn't do that. He runs and runs and runs... He's 100% unwatchable. If he was fighting consistently on HBO or SHOWTIME... boxing would be completely DEAD.

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                  • BOLLOCKS
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                    #19
                    I always thought Ivan Calderon was a runner.

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                    • Bambicolors
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                      #20
                      Juan Manuel MArquez

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