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  • Vladimir303
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    #21
    Originally posted by deevel79
    How big would this fight be in 09, if by any chance either fighter were to lose by then? Right now u have 2 hot undefeated champs who are both in thier PRIME. One is the #1 WW in the world, while the other is the #2 WW, and seen as the #1 threat to Floyd crown. One slip up from either fighter, and this potential history making bout is down the drain.
    1. Why is it a history making bout? Based on what?

    2. So two undefeated fighters have to hurry up and get the fight made because one of the two might not be good enough to hold on to his 0 for much longer? Wow
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      #22
      Originally posted by The_Executioner
      Margarito ****ted on himself losing to Paul Williams. He doesn't matter unless he beats Cintron.
      He still wont matter then either, no fanbase.

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        #23
        Originally posted by vladimir303
        I laugh everytime I look at Margarito's record. He lost to a guy that Cory Spinks whiped his ass with with no trouble what so ever whle good ol' Antonion struggled.

        He lost to a guy that Cosme Rivera ( a guy every elite and some not even elite, welter defeated including Judah) tko'd at one point.

        He is pathetic. The only real claim of legitimacy he has is beating Cintron and we have yet to find out if that was legit or not. It remains to be determined in the rematch.

        I sure hope he gets beaten by Cintron so we don't hear from him again.
        Did you see the Rodney Jones/Spinks fight? Jones is no slouch and the scorecards were way off if you ask me. Many very close rounds.

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          #24
          Originally posted by deevel79
          How big would this fight be in 09, if by any chance either fighter were to lose by then? Right now u have 2 hot undefeated champs who are both in thier PRIME. One is the #1 WW in the world, while the other is the #2 WW, and seen as the #1 threat to Floyd crown. One slip up from either fighter, and this potential history making bout is down the drain.
          I don't think Floyd is worried about losing. With the fights it looks like Cotto has lined up for the rest of '08 (Gomez, Margarito/Cintron, Mayorga, etc.), I really don't think Cotto is too worried about losing.

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            #25
            Originally posted by vladimir303
            1. Why is it a history making bout? Based on what?

            2. So two undefeated fighters have to hurry up and get the fight made because one of the two might not be good enough to hold on to his 0 for much longer? Wow
            1. It will be a history making bout do to the success and achievments of both fighters. Not to mention, if Cotto were to defeat Floyd, he will be defeating the so-called "best fighter of our generation"

            2. Its not about both of them not being good enough to hold on to thier 0 much longer. If u have been watching boxing for more than just 2yrs, u will know that if u stay in the game long enough, you will eventually lose. U can have an off night and lose. It doesnt mean that they aren't good enough to hold on to thier undefeated records. The real question is "how long?". The best fighters in the history of the sport have lost.

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              #26
              Originally posted by javelin_fangs
              I don't think Floyd is worried about losing. With the fights it looks like Cotto has lined up for the rest of '08 (Gomez, Margarito/Cintron, Mayorga, etc.), I really don't think Cotto is too worried about losing.
              I bet Tyson wasnt worried about losing to Douglas. Neither was RJJ worried about losing to both Tarver and Johnson. The reality is, in this sport, anything can happen.

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                #27
                Originally posted by deevel79
                I bet Tyson wasnt worried about losing to Douglas. Neither was RJJ worried about losing to both Tarver and Johnson. The reality is, in this sport, anything can happen.
                Anything CAN happen.

                But even if Floyd does lose (it's not going to happen, but for purposes of placating your urgent sensibilities I'll grant that), since Cotto doesn't care about money at all then he can just fight whoever beats Floyd. I mean all he's about is beating the best right? So, why should it matter if it's Floyd, DLH or Hatton?

                Cotto really should fight all three eventually. Gomez is not going to beat him. The Margarito-Cintron 2 winner isn't going to beat him. Mayorga isn't going to beat him.

                But yes, anything CAN happen. I just don't think either Cotto or Mayweather will lose any of their next 2 or 3 fights based on the outlook for who those fights will be against.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by deevel79
                  1. It will be a history making bout do to the success and achievments of both fighters. Not to mention, if Cotto were to defeat Floyd, he will be defeating the so-called "best fighter of our generation"
                  Yes for Cotto it means he will get his career high payday and an oppritunity to defeate the best figter P4P and one of the ATG's.

                  You didn't mention anything in terms of reward on Floyd's side. If Floyd beats Cotto, is he really making history. Is he even beating a great fighter? Or just an up and coming young fighter who deserves a shot?


                  2. Its not about both of them not being good enough to hold on to thier 0 much longer. If u have been watching boxing for more than just 2yrs, u will know that if u stay in the game long enough, you will eventually lose. U can have an off night and lose. It doesnt mean that they aren't good enough to hold on to thier undefeated records. The real question is "how long?". The best fighters in the history of the sport have lost.
                  You're talkin as if they will meet in 2012. If Cotto is the man that many of his supporters claim he is, then he shouldn't have a problem with Gomez and unifying titles with the Cintron/Margarito winner. That alone makes the fight bigger, taking the Cinron/Margarito winner out of the picture.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by vladimir303
                    Yes for Cotto it means he will get his career high payday and an oppritunity to defeate the best figter P4P and one of the ATG's.

                    You didn't mention anything in terms of reward on Floyd's side. If Floyd beats Cotto, is he really making history. Is he even beating a great fighter? Or just an up and coming young fighter who deserves a shot?




                    You're talkin as if they will meet in 2012. If Cotto is the man that many of his supporters claim he is, then he shouldn't have a problem with Gomez and unifying titles with the Cintron/Margarito winner. That alone makes the fight bigger, taking the Cinron/Margarito winner out of the picture.

                    Right now, Floyd's credibility is as the #1 pfp fighter in the sport is taking a hit due to his inactivity, desire to rematch both Oscar and Hatton, and reluctance to fight who? yes, Miguel Cotto. Every corner Floyd turns, somebody is asking him about Miguel Cotto. Whether its journalists, commentators, fans, interviewers, etc......the question is "when are u going to fight Miguel Cotto" So for Floyd, his reward in fighting Miguel Cotto, would be to silence his critics about ducking Cotto, prove that he is the #1 WW in the world as he claims (beating baldomir does not prove it), and last but not least, he will also be making a handsome payday. It will not be an Oscar payday, but at the end of the day, he will see around $15mil with purse money and ppv revenue. Floyd will not make that with nobody except Oscar and MAYBE Hatton, but then again, how many times can u beat a dead horse with these pointless rematches?

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                    • Vladimir303
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by deevel79
                      Right now, Floyd's credibility is as the #1 pfp fighter in the sport is taking a hit due to his inactivity, desire to rematch both Oscar and Hatton, and reluctance to fight who? yes, Miguel Cotto. Every corner Floyd turns, somebody is asking him about Miguel Cotto. Whether its journalists, commentators, fans, interviewers, etc......the question is "when are u going to fight Miguel Cotto" So for Floyd, his reward in fighting Miguel Cotto, would be to silence his critics about ducking Cotto, prove that he is the #1 WW in the world as he claims (beating baldomir does not prove it), and last but not least, he will also be making a handsome payday. It will not be an Oscar payday, but at the end of the day, he will see around $15mil with purse money and ppv revenue. Floyd will not make that with nobody except Oscar and MAYBE Hatton, but then again, how many times can u beat a dead horse with these pointless rematches?
                      1. We don't know what he is gonna make with Top Rank involved.

                      2. You just made my point. All the questions about him fighting Cotto is only gonna make the fight bigger then longer it lasts. It's up to Cottto to make it last by elimiating the Cintron/Margarito IBF title winner ouf of the picture.

                      3. Can Cotto do it, enhance his reputaton even further by adding another title and perhaps defeating the guy (margarito) who before Cotto was the guy Floyd was suppsedly ducking.......OR.......will he flop like Margarito did and lose to somebody and therefore destroy the hype he carried for months on internet chatrooms and message boards?



                      That remains to be seen.

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