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  • My Name Is...
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    #51
    yo everyone chill out. I didnt try to start a ****in arguement. If your gonna argue with someone make it me. So your sayin bigotry. And I didnt even say it like that.
    See this is where the ****in latino including Mexican and PR are ****** as a whole. And yes i am mexican and my father was a illegal that swam over here illegaly. Instead of standong together we all fight each other.

    Look at White America, whether they are wrong or right they stand by each other side by side. When the whole Enron shuit went down, everyone hated them, but white america stood behind them and defended them in the public eye.

    Look at the Blacks and whats going on with *****. Whether you think he is the best candidate or not, all the blacks came out and voted and stood behind their man. Against all odds he is probably going to come out on top.

    Now look at us latinos. Did you know that there was a latino running for president, i bet you didnt. yeah ****in bill richardson of New Mexico is half latino,, with a Mexican mother from Mexico. We have the biggest ****in population in the **** country, and what do we do. I know what we dont do, back ours up Like White and Black America do theirs. White America is more conservative and likes to keep things the same, you nkow stay comfortable. Blacks change things culturally. Look at hip hop , and the hip hop image. look how ***** is trying to Change things. I mean damn CHANGE is his slogan. but what do latinos do, we adapt and follow the pack instead of making our own trends and doing our won thing.

    What I am saying is latinos are too ****in sensitive. **** it, let it roll of your back. Dont take things so literal. Chill out, I didnt mean for a ****in argument.
    So if yall want to bring hate, bring it to me, dont spred it to other people, they didnt say it.

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    • Njord777
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      #52
      I don't think anyone was trying to say Puerto Rican fighters are innately dirty, are they? He wasn't saying that from a genetic standpoint a Latino man is less ethical and pulls dirty tactics. I believe what he was attempting to say was, in the country of Puerto Rico- according to his father- the boxing culture emphasized aggressive tactics, such as low blows, to be utilized when necessary.

      Now, maybe he's wrong, but I don't see anything racist in suggesting that a country has a certain set of values that they imprint on their boxers. Just like Mexican fighters having a reputation for being brawlers. I mean in the Pauli Malinaggi documentary- which I saw an entire thread on and dozens of people discussing- Lou Dibella straight out says that White fighters generally show a lack of speed and are thereby fighters reliant on their power- and that Pauli was a rare exception to that mold. He's basically saying that on a genetic level those of European descent do not possess the same speed and athleticism as black and Latino fighters. Nobody said **** about that in the documentary thread. So, when someone is referring to boxers learning techniques in a social context, specifically the culture they are raised in, why is he getting flamed?

      I think people are so sensitized to race we jump on anyone who points out any differences. Blacks, whites, and Latinos in America are not the same. Most of the differences are social in origin- due to socioeconomic factors and such- but we try and pretend everything is identical, rather than just saying we should all be respect and valued equally despite our obvious differences.
      Last edited by Njord777; 04-03-2008, 11:07 PM.

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        #53
        Originally posted by Njord777
        I don't think anyone was trying to say Puerto Rican fighters are innately dirty, are they? He wasn't saying that from a genetic standpoint a Latino man is less ethical and pulls dirty tactics. I believe what he was attempting to say was, in the country of Puerto Rico- according to his father- the boxing culture emphasized aggressive tactics, such as low blows, to be utilized when necessary.

        Now, maybe he's wrong, but I don't see anything racist in suggesting that a country has a certain set of values that they imprint on their boxers. Just like Mexican fighters having a reputation for being brawlers. I mean in the Pauli Malinaggi documentary- which I saw an entire thread on and dozens of people discussing- Lou Dibella straight out says that White fighters generally show a lack of speed and are thereby fighters reliant on their power- and that Pauli was a rare exception to that mold. He's basically saying that on a genetic level those of European descent do not possess the same speed and athleticism and black and latino fighters. Nobody said **** about that in the documentary thread. So, when someone is referring to boxers learning techniques in a social context, specifically the culture they are raised in, why is he getting flamed?

        I think people are so sensitized to race we jump on anyone who points out any differences. Blacks, whites, and Latinos in American are not the same. Most of the differences are social in origin- due to socioeconomic factors and such- but we try and pretend everything is identical, rather than just saying we should all be respect and valued equally despite our obvious differences.
        thank you homie

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          #54
          Originally posted by HTownTexan
          Well, I DONT WANT TO OFFEND ANYONE OK? But, I am not surprised the he is a guy from the islands( PR, Domincan Rep., etc), back then they taught their fighters sto fight dirty. I know this because my dad was an assistant trainer to 2 world champions. One is Jese Benavidez of Corpus Christi, Texas (my hometown). My dad toldme stories of some island fighters and it was really crazy. Ever wonder why JulCesChavez wore the red thing around his head? Because Edwin Rosario tried to do voodoo/black magic on him. He was informed by another person that did the same stuff, and wore the red thing because that is supposedly blessed or reversed cursed. I know it sounds dumb, but witch doctor **** is almost like another religion in Mexico and The Islands. Also if you look at Edwin Rosarios face when Chavez came into the ring, he has a bit of a slight shocked look. My dad told me about it and showed me. My dad told me that some of the Island trainers would deliberately teach their fighters dirty tricks. Like Trinidad hit low EVERY TIME he was hurt. I dont want to ruffle any feathers, so if
          I did my bad.
          Originally posted by Njord777
          I don't think anyone was trying to say Puerto Rican fighters are innately dirty, are they? He wasn't saying that from a genetic standpoint a Latino man is less ethical and pulls dirty tactics. I believe what he was attempting to say was, in the country of Puerto Rico- according to his father- the boxing culture emphasized aggressive tactics, such as low blows, to be utilized when necessary.
          read again.

          as far as texan,you aren't the only one,yesterday mochiteco tried to correlate
          tito's tactics with this scumbag.and i put the smash on him with a buncha articles.

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            #55
            Originally posted by ANTONIM
            read again.

            as far as texan,you aren't the only one,yesterday mochiteco tried to correlate
            tito's tactics with this scumbag.and i put the smash on him with a buncha articles.
            I'm reading. What I see him saying is that his father told him that, at one point, Caribbean fighters - in fact not even Latino or Puerto Rican fighters- were culturally geared towards fighting dirty. Now, this might be complete and utter bull****...but how is it bigotry? Isn't he referring to culture values of Caribbean countries, and not a race or ethnicity? It might be ******...but racist? I'm not seeing it.

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              #56
              Originally posted by Njord777
              I'm reading. What I see him saying is that his father told him that, at one point, Caribbean fighters - in fact not even Latino or Puerto Rican fighters- were culturally geared towards fighting dirty. Now, this might be complete and utter bull****...but how is it bigotry? Isn't he referring to culture values of Caribbean countries, and not a race or ethnicity? It might be ******...but racist? I'm not seeing it.
              he knew he was puerto rican,that's why he was hesitant to say anything.

              and like i said before he's FROM NEW YORK.
              Last edited by AntonTheMeh; 04-03-2008, 11:22 PM.

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              • NAPO
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                #57
                Originally posted by Njord777
                I'm reading. What I see him saying is that his father told him that, at one point, Caribbean fighters - in fact not even Latino or Puerto Rican fighters- were culturally geared towards fighting dirty. Now, this might be complete and utter bull****...but how is it bigotry? Isn't he referring to culture values of Caribbean countries, and not a race or ethnicity? It might be ******...but racist? I'm not seeing it.
                how is it understandable??? this guy is talking ****!!! making it general his ignorant father telling him about chapo voddo and black magic WTF??? how do they know??? please is ridiculous.


                mexicans do fouls lowblows
                blacks headbutt and lowblows


                every ****ing body in boxing does it why this mother****er has to make it to racial???

                and plus this is a guy FROM NEW YORK!!! BRONX IS NOT PR.


                this is very disrespectful how the **** u want people to react?

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                  #58
                  Good Night..........................

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by NAPO
                    how is it understandable??? this guy is talking ****!!! making it general his ignorant father telling him about chapo voddo and black magic WTF??? how do they know??? please is ridiculous.


                    mexicans do fouls lowblows
                    blacks headbutt and lowblows


                    every ****ing body in boxing does it why this mother****er has to make it to racial???

                    and plus this is a guy FROM NEW YORK!!! BRONX IS NOT PR.


                    this is very disrespectful how the **** u want people to react?
                    Napo, you know Pr's are cheaters . This is the icing on the cake.

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                    • Njord777
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by NAPO
                      how is it understandable??? this guy is talking ****!!! making it general his ignorant father telling him about chapo voddo and black magic WTF??? how do they know??? please is ridiculous.


                      mexicans do fouls lowblows
                      blacks headbutt and lowblows


                      every ****ing body in boxing does it why this mother****er has to make it to racial???

                      and plus this is a guy FROM NEW YORK!!! BRONX IS NOT PR.


                      this is very disrespectful how the **** u want people to react?

                      No. See, that's the point- you can be offended if he says something slanderous about your culture, sure. If you are from Puerto Rico and he says in that country they teach fighters dirty tactics- you have every right to call that ignorant. He didn't say it was a race issue, though. Culture and race are not the same. Understand my point? A Mexican born and raised in Germany is going to display the characteristics of a German because of how he was socialized. He's Mexican by ethnicity, sure, but his culture is most likely going to display a much more Germanic flair.

                      I'm not defending the actual statement- but I am denying it to be a racist, one. What I read in his post is that his father told him in the Caribbean islands fighters were taught by their trainers to fight dirty. This can be wrong. It can be ******- but he's talking about social contexts. Not race.

                      If he had said, "Puerto Rican fighters have that Latino temper, they're born with it, so when a fight isn't going their way...they do dirty ****." That is an ignorant, deplorably racist statement because it implies something derogatory due to genetics.

                      No one said anything about Puerto Ricans genetically, did they? It was a cultural slight. I agree he could be wrong, and a Puerto Rican can be offended, but there is a slight difference.

                      Anyway, I'm trying to play devil's advocate because I think people are very sensitive to this topic and may have taken his comment wrong.

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