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Oh yeah, Im not saying other races arent dirty. There are dirty fighters in every race. Casamayore, holding ALOT. It is in the rule book. You take points away for excessive holding. Henry Akinwande got DQ'd for holding so much. Floyd uses elbows to create seperation. Ricky Hatton holds and hits. Nate Campbell laced and head butted the **** out of Juan Diaz. They are in every race.
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and for your information,resto has pr parents but born and bred from new york.
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My dad was just some ******* from Mexico that came over here illegaly. He was 14 in the first grade. BUT he kept on going to school and got a scholarship to college. Became a fire fighter, was one for 26 years and retired a few years back with cash in the bank. He is 63 years old now, but coming to america back then as an illegal *******, he knows all about racism and we are FAR FROM RACIST. But my dad actually told me this story about resto a long time ago. He told that he did do it, when resto was saying that he didnt do it. He told me many other stories with facts. Of course he'll throw in his opinion in here and there but the fact were true. So I dont know, I aint tryin' to piss you off though, because it's all love coming from this side.Last edited by My Name Is...; 04-03-2008, 07:19 PM.Comment
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What a ****.Comment
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Panama Lewis
Black bottle!
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So Tito followed this cheaters footsteps
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You know what? I'm usually the first to denounce any racist or ignorant comments- but I feel the need to defend your statement. I'm not saying your father was certaintly right, but the idea he espoused was not an unusual one. It was that certain cultures hold specific values; i.e. brutality, winning, etc. higher than others. Look at the typical "Mexican warrior". The commentators on HBO boldly talk about how the stereotypical Mexican fighter is a brawler who goes on heart above skill- that their culture breeds blood and guts warriors. Just because this comment is positive, doesn't mean it's singling out a specific country or ethnicity any less than the idea that Puerto Rican fighters were taught to fight dirty.
Let's say, for example, pride is derived solely from victory. For this example I'm going to say Puerto Ricans- and no offense is meant- value winning above all else. They see boxing, in their culture, as a fighting sport - a contest built on pain, and blood; broken bones and split flesh. In this culture no one should step in the ring if they aren't willing to die. That's what makes a boxer a warrior. So, in this culture, if a fighter needs to throw a rabbit punch or a low blow in the grand scheme- well, it's combat, not tea time. They support a little rough, dirty **** from time to time; all in the context of mutual respect as combatants.
Again, maybe the statement was totally wrong- but thinking a culture breeds a specific type of fighter isn't a new idea, or even one that people frown on. I saw a local fight with an up-and-coming Puerto Rican heavyweight a few years back. I'm in Florida so there's a pretty robust Puerto Rican community and, when he came on at the end of the card, a band began playing - people chanting and singing along- every Puerto Rican was wearing their flag and culture proudly. At one point the boxer delivered a very deliberate low blow- which the referee deducted a point for and gave time to recover from. THE PUERTO RICANS CHEERED AND THE BAND PLAYED LOUDER THAN EVER. Not because they were supporting it I guess, my girlfriend at the time yelled and told one of the guys, "Hey, that's not cool- it was ****ing low!" The guy was playing the tambourine - stopped to look at her and just shrugged saying, "Eh. What you gonna do?" Ha.
Every culture has different values and it can be passed onto fighters. Puerto Ricans boxers deserve as much respect as any other- but don't flame Texan for suggesting perhaps, at one point, rough tactics were widely employed by them. I don't think he meant any disrespect.Last edited by Njord777; 04-03-2008, 07:53 PM.Comment
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