The Most Important Quality A Great Fighter Must Have?

[-Antonio-]

I realize a fighter has to have heart and determination, and he has to have mental strength.

But you look at all the best fighters to ever lace them up, and they were some of the most intelligant fighters. The big four of the 80's; SRL, Hagler, Duran, Hearns, all had superior ring intelligance. Yes all had tremendous heart, but that's not what made them great.

Of course you have the Henry Armstrongs who made it off of sheer will and determination, but for every one of those there's five Mayweather's.

[Dynamite Kid]

So you run till you die?

I quit running all the time. Would never quit in a fight. Not ever.

That's not because it's cool taking punishment.
That's because I know sooner or later he'll be more tired than me, and then I'll get him.

if u have quit once it is easy to fall into the mindset of quitting again ,i take it u are not a proffesional fighter ? doing 3 rounds as an Ameteur is a completely different game .When u are into the 10 round of a fight and u are tired and u are taking viscious shots to the body id hazzard a guess that thoughts of quitting enter your head more than what they do when u are point scoring for 3 rounds as an ameteur


im not saying u cant quit cause i quit occasionally i quit occasionally but only when im getting back into my running when i have 'nt done it for a few weeks and it starts kicking my ass ,but as soon as im upto speed i try never to quit ,quitting occasionally is fine but when it becomes a regular accurance u need to take a look at yourself IMO

[tyson]

if u have quit once it is easy to fall into the mindset of quitting again ,i take it u are not a proffesional fighter ? doing 3 rounds as an Ameteur is a completely different game .When u are into the 10 round of a fight and u are tired and u are taking viscious shots to the body id hazzard a guess that thoughts of quitting enter your head more than what they do when u are point scoring for 3 rounds as an ameteur


im not saying u cant quit cause i quit occasionally i quit occasionally but only when im getting back into my running when i have 'nt done it for a few weeks and it starts kicking my ass ,but as soon as im upto speed i try never to quit ,quitting occasionally is fine but when it becomes a regular accurance u need to take a look at yourself IMO

If I don't quit running, I'll never get back home.

When I train intervals, I run until I drop. Then I do the same as soon as I can stand up.

But I still quit running.

[-Antonio-]

I mean you can look at a guy like Marciano, who many praise for his determination. But what a lot of people fail to point out is he was very good at slipping punches, and crouching his body in positions that made him more difficult to hit.

And back on Tito, his ability to time devastating left hooks was apart of his intelligance as a fighter to credit him.

[Welter_Skelter]

If I could top out in any department, I'd pick WILL.

Ain't no one in the world who could **** with the greatest WILL of all time.

Except for the GUY who can adjust to it...

[Dynamite Kid]

If I don't quit running, I'll never get back home.

When I train intervals, I run until I drop. Then I do the same as soon as I can stand up.

But I still quit running.

TBH i did'nt expect any less anyone who stops running and walks home is deffo a quitter ,when i say quit running thats exactly what im talking about wether u carry on or not u have still given into temptation to stop

i run over 20 miles a week some weeks ,no bull**** ,but recently i have suffered from ankle problems and have had to lay off it and cut short my runs untill my ankle is 100% again ,i can run 16 mile without stopping once

[TheGreatA]

Perhaps someone like James Toney would serve as an example of how one can be successful without being very determined to train.

He was successful because of his ring-intelligence and talent but then again he could have been much greater if not for his bad training habits/letting himself go out of shape between fights.

It's the same for post-Leonard Duran, Rid**** Bowe and Wilfred Benitez.

[Dynamite Kid]

Perhaps someone like James Toney would serve as an example of how one can be successful without being very determined to train.

He was successful because of his ring-intelligence and talent but then again he could have been much greater if not for his bad training habits/letting himself go out of shape between fights.

It's the same for post-Leonard Duran, Rid**** Bowe and Wilfred Benitez.

yeah i agree

and most of the fighters that dont really have to rely on their determination/heart like RJJ & Floyd Mayweather happen to be 2 of the best fighters of the last 10/15 years ,bad example IMO if u dont poccess the same skill level or athletic ability

i see fighters trying to mimic Roy Jones and i just shake my head , Roy Jones was effective with that style because of how quick & athlectic he was yet u get moderately quick fighters trying to replicate him

Mundine got KTFO by Sven Ottke a 5 KO Merchant ,Roy Himself paid the price for that style when his reflexes and speed slowed down

make no mistake about it Hatton ,Benn, got to where they did not because of skill but because they trainied hard and were always in top condition for a fight ,u can get so far with heart the same way u can get only so far with skills and a lack of heart but as the say the truth will find u in the ring

[Dynamite Kid]

having said all that i think Preparation is the main ingreident to how much heart u show in a fight ,i mean i dont thin Rid**** Bowe was the type to dig deep when he was'nt in shape but he was the type to dig deep when he was in shape ,in the 1st Golota fight he seemed like he was pleading with the referee for a disqualification because he was 'nt shape for the fight

not sure if anyone agrees with that

[TheGreatA]

yeah i agree

and most of the fighters that dont really have to rely on their determination/heart like RJJ & Floyd Mayweather happen to be 2 of the best fighters of the last 10/15 years ,bad example IMO if u dont poccess the same skill level or athletic ability

i see fighters trying to mimic Roy Jones and i just shake my head , Roy Jones was effective with that style because of how quick & athlectic he was yet u get moderately quick fighters trying to replicate him

Mundine got KTFO by Sven Ottke a 5 KO Merchant ,Roy Himself paid the price for that style when his reflexes and speed slowed down

make no mistake about it Hatton ,Benn, got to where they did not because of skill but because they trainied hard and were always in top condition for a fight ,u can get so far with heart the same way u can get only so far with skills and a lack of heart but as the say the truth will find u in the ring

I think Floyd and Roy Jones do have determination, the determination to be the best, make a lot of money, something like that.
They train hard for every fight and never come out of shape.

They make the most out of their talent although they could have fought better opposition sometimes but atleast they do not waste it by getting out of shape like Toney and Bowe did.

in the 1st Golota fight he seemed like he was pleading with the referee for a disqualification because he was 'nt shape for the fight

I don't think Bowe was in shape for the 2nd one but he showed a lot of heart taking all that punishment and got up 2 times from the canvas.
He wasn't fat but he was weight-drained.

Bowe was not in great shape for the 3rd Holyfield fight either but he got up after being dropped, survived the rest of the round and then stopped Holyfield.

He took Golota lightly for the first time, came out of shape, ended up almost losing the fight and on top of all that he was getting hammered by low blows.

That would take a lot out of anyone. It is true he was looking for a way out but I wouldn't say it's his lack of heart, just the dirty tactics of Golota, the DQ was justified.


Ouch.