Best Finishers In Boxing?

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  • !! Shawn
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    #121
    Originally posted by Addison
    HaHA.. I don't think Taylor was going to be getting his senses together. Kelly and Jack Loew both detailed infamously how Taylor was done before he hit the post.. Anyways, I think Pavlik is a great finisher. Top 5 of alltime is what created the stir..

    If you have Tyson and RWK after you, you probably overstated.. Just something to keep in mind. You and I are talking about who should be the 5. That's tough. I'm suprised you're so sure, I'm not.
    You would probably be as sure as I am if you watched old fights as frequently as I do.

    There is always flexibility in a list like this, and my lists are always open to changing as I gather more information. I try to analyze the fights and fighter objectively and as such, any new "evidence" I see can change how I rate things.

    That is one reason I exclude records as a basis for rating. They introduce bias into the equation. It is simply enough to watch the fight and determine how good the opposition was.

    A shot legend looks the same as a contender that never made it to the top. But if you rate on record, that shot legend can skew your rating horribly.

    I also think Taylor was done after that right hand, but only because he was in there with well... Pavlik

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      #122
      Originally posted by !! Shawn
      You would probably be as sure as I am if you watched old fights as frequently as I do.

      There is always flexibility in a list like this, and my lists are always open to changing as I gather more information. I try to analyze the fights and fighter objectively and as such, any new "evidence" I see can change how I rate things.

      That is one reason I exclude records as a basis for rating. They introduce bias into the equation. It is simply enough to watch the fight and determine how good the opposition was.

      A shot legend looks the same as a contender that never made it to the top. But if you rate on record, that shot legend can skew your rating horribly.

      I also think Taylor was done after that right hand, but only because he was in there with well... Pavlik
      Ok.. Now you're speaking vodoo..

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        #123
        Originally posted by Addison
        That's what I'm saying; on one hand they can't be too hurt. On the other hand they aren't hurt enough.. I'll assume you feel Aaron Pryor does something far different from Calzaghe and De La Hoya?
        Yes, he doesn't stop fighters on flash. He overwhelms them, but he hurts them and puts them down. I was reluctant to include him, but what he does is so incredible it would be a crime to exclude his unique extended brand of finishing.

        Once Pryor has you hurt, there is no recovery. If you are lucky, you will be dazed for the rest of the fight. If you are not, you are done for the night.

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          #124
          Originally posted by Addison
          Ok.. Now you're speaking vodoo..


          HahAHAhahaHAH, this is too much, BWAHAHAHAHAHAH

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            #125
            Originally posted by Addison
            Ok.. Now you're speaking vodoo..
            Huh? Cool, I picked up a new skill. Don't make me use it!

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              #126
              Originally posted by !! Shawn
              Huh? Cool, I picked up a new skill. Don't make me use it!
              Shawn, pure curiosity.. Why did they ever ban you? ALT?

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                #127
                Originally posted by Addison
                Shawn, pure curiosity.. Why did they ever ban you? ALT?
                Once was for a thread about people in wheel chairs.

                Once for a thread in the thunder dome about how asiansensation likes bikers to pop their probe all over his face (making fun of how he refered to wlads jabbing as popping his probe). I know, I dont get whats wrong with bikers jabbing him in the face either.

                Once for posting random pictures in response to posts by elitesoldier.

                Yep thats it. 3 times for violating 0 rules.

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                  #128
                  [QUOTE=tyson;3306593]
                  Originally posted by !! Shawn
                  I understand what you say.

                  Roy Jones is way better than Pavlik at those things you are describing, even if he chooses not to do so.

                  You make it out like Foster, Saddler, Robinson, Moore etc punch so hard that people get knocked out cold if they connect, even if they are still on their feet, while Pavlik does not punch hard enough to render his opposition out on their feet, meaning he's a great finisher since his opponents are still on their feet and needs to be punched again.

                  It makes no sense because you turn it around to suit your argument.

                  Ali was a great finisher too.
                  Great post, I concur with this lovely fellow

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                    #129
                    Originally posted by !! Shawn
                    Once was for a thread about people in wheel chairs.

                    Once for a thread in the thunder dome about how asiansensation likes bikers to pop their probe all over his face (making fun of how he refered to wlads jabbing as popping his probe). I know, I dont get whats wrong with bikers jabbing him in the face either.

                    Once for posting random pictures in response to posts by elitesoldier.

                    Yep thats it. 3 times for violating 0 rules.
                    HaHA.. I see. It would help to know the names of your other accounts. For future reference I for one would give you the red carpet if I knew you were an old alliance.. I guess it's also good to have a fresh start..

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                      #130
                      [QUOTE=tyson;3306635]
                      Originally posted by tyson
                      Great post, I concur with this lovely fellow
                      Roy Jones could have been a great finisher, but he simply chose not to. You cant give someone credit for something they are not willing to do.

                      But then again, I think Roy Jones would beat everyone in a p4p match-up.

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