Best Finishers In Boxing?

[Run]

No, I am not getting confused. Pavlik he doesn't let people off the hook.

Foster did. Sadler did from what I have seen.

Jack Dempsey honestly isn't even in the discussion.

Jesus Christ, Man. lol.

Pavlik has fought Jermaine Taylor K.

An old, never was known as a hard hitter, almost stopped Taylor in the final round of their first fight. Using Taylor as a sole example isn't necessarily convincing IMO. lol I mean you can point to the way Pavlik fights and the way he does in fact have the power..........and point to where he's knocked out lesser fighters. Where he "didn't let them off the hook".

Outside of Taylor he dispatched a little known and small threat in Zertuche, a wild crowd pleaser in Miranda..........and a 75 year old in ring age Bronco McKart. Hell maybe age also.



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[!! Shawn]

Don't get me wrong, Pavlik is a very good finished, the best in the sport today but he shouldn't be in the top 5 all time just yet.

This is where I differ from many people on how I rank fighters. Accomplishments do not mean ****.

A Ferrari that is a daily driver is still 100 times the car as a Honda that is winning races.

With the same light, I only rate based on what I see with my eyes. As long as they are not tomato cans, who they are fighting is meaningless.

Its all about the way in which they do it. Pavlik does it as well as the rest of my top 5.

If you woke up one day and forgot who every fighter in history was, and you sat down and watched videos of all of the people that have been discussed, you would come up with a list like mine.

That is how I approach ranking a fighters ability, by what they can do, not who they have had the opportunity to do it against, and thats what it boils down to is opportunity.

Some fighters never get the opportunity to build that ATG record, no-matter how hard they try.

[!! Shawn]

Jesus Christ, Man. lol.

Pavlik has fought Jermaine Taylor K.

An old, never was known as a hard hitter, almost stopped Taylor in the final round of their first fight. Using Taylor as a sole example isn't necessarily convincing IMO. lol I mean you can point to the way Pavlik fights and the way he does in fact have the power..........and point to where he's knocked out lesser fighters. Where he "didn't let them off the hook".

Outside of Taylor he dispatched a little known and small threat in Zertuche, a wild crowd pleaser in Miranda..........and a 75 year old in ring age Bronco McKart. Hell maybe age also.

Once again, you rank based on record, and not ability.

To you, the Ferrari that has never been raced is worth less than the Honda that is raced every weekend.

[Run]

Once again, you rank based on record, and not ability.

To you, the Ferrari that has never been raced is worth less than the Honda that is raced every weekend.

Yeah I'd hazard to guess Pavlik would look even more impressive as a finisher.......and even further cement his place in history in that respect if he were to have a string of fights against 17 year old girls.

I mean I'm sure he could put punches together well on them.



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[!! Shawn]

Yes, Jack Dempsey. Are you confused about that?

You must be kidding.. You are talking out of your ass at this point, buddy. You haven't seen these cats fight. HaHA..

You're asking about Saddler, Foster, and Dempsey letting people off the hook???? BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! C'mon dude!

Yes, Foster let people off the hook. Although he almost always caught up with them, he did not put them away right away every time.

I am not saying he is not a great finisher, just not top5. Top 10, yes. Top 5? No.

Sandy Sadler, I have not seen enough of to really come to an unbiased conclusion.

The mere fact that Dempsey let Gene Tuney off the hook excludes him from even being mentioned in top5 talk.

[!! Shawn]

Yeah I'd hazard to guess Pavlik would look even more impressive as a finisher.......and even further cement his place in history in that respect if he were to have a string of fights against 17 year old girls.

I mean I'm sure he could put punches together well on them.

Now you are just being absurd. Obviously you watch how the opponent is fighting. A 17 year-old girl doesn't make it to the point of getting finished. Thats a 1 punch ko.

[Addison]

Yes, Foster let people off the hook. Although he almost always caught up with them, he did not put them away right away every time.

I am not saying he is not a great finisher, just not top5. Top 10, yes. Top 5? No.

Sandy Sadler, I have not seen enough of to really come to an unbiased conclusion.

The mere fact that Dempsey let Gene Tuney off the hook excludes him from even being mentioned in top5 talk.

HaHA.. Ok, Shawn. You're cracking me up.. Because Dempsey couldn't finish Tunney? When? In the last fight of his career??? HaHAHAHA!! He couldn't see dude! What do you want him to do?

That was funny when you said to Tyson that Iron Mike should be excluded because of what happened in the Douglas fight.. Do you have any idea how beat up Tyson was at that point? He's human you know..

[!! Shawn]

Saddler had 28 TKO's. Nearly 30% of his knockouts were by way off TKO.
THat is not one punch KO's. Which means he must be one hell of a finisher.

And if Fosters combinations were on helpless victims, what would you make off Pavlik's combinations on Taylor and Miranda?
I recall them as being pretty much helpless...

Taylor was not helpless until the end. Neither was Miranda. Being helpless is the end result of a well executed finishing.

It is the difference between how Tommy Hearns put Pepino Cuevas out on his feet then hammered him into the ground for style points, and the way Corrales finished off Castillo in the 10th round.

Bob Foster did Pepino Cuevas type KO's. From what I see, so does Sadler.

They chase around opponents who are for all intents and purposes out on their feet, and they put those extra style points on.

Pavlik doesn't have that kind of power. He rocks a guy, works him to the ropes, picks apart his defense, then puts them out cold.

That is what finishing is all about. Getting rid of a hurt fighter that is trying to survive, not throwing a flashy combination at a fighter that would go down if you sneezed on them.

[tyson]

HaHA.. Ok, Shawn. You're cracking me up.. Because Dempsey couldn't finish Tunney? When? In the last fight of his career??? HaHAHAHA!! He couldn't see dude! What do you want him to do?

That was funny when you said to Tyson that Iron Mike should be excluded because of what happened in the Douglas fight.. Do you have any idea how beat up Tyson was at that point? He's human you know..

To be honest, it's been awhile since I had this much fun on boxingscene, so all the glory in the world to Shawn!

Pavlik will not have a long reign as a champion, mark my words.

To claim him to be one of the best finisher's in the history of the sport is nothing short of spectacular

[Addison]

To be honest, it's been awhile since I had this much fun on boxingscene, so all the glory in the world to Shawn!

Pavlik will not have a long reign as a champion, mark my words.

To claim him to be one of the best finisher's in the history of the sport is nothing short of spectacular

Shawn is fun, agreed! Strong views are needed here.