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  • !! Shawn
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    #81
    Originally posted by Addison
    No Jack Dempsey? No Sandy Saddler? Julio Caesar Chavez? No Bob Foster?
    Jack Dempsey?

    Sandy Saddler and Bob Foster are punchers. You are confusing finishing with ability to win by knockout. They are not the same.

    I can only name 1 fighter that was hurt by Pavlik and lasted more than a round after that. Zuniga, and Pavlik did hurt him again and didn't let him off the hook.

    How many fighters did Jack Dempsey let off the hook?
    How about Bob Foster?
    How about Sandy Sadler?

    All of those guys frequently rocked a fighter but failed to capitalize on the success.

    Finishing ability is all about how many times you have to hurt your opponent before you can close the show.

    Pavlik only needs one.

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      #82
      Originally posted by tyson
      Bob Foster would probably rate as a puncher by this guy's standard.

      Saddler has alot of TKO's, so it's difficult for him to write good ol' Sandy off as a one-punch KO artist
      He probably would. Shawn is intense with this stuff..

      Foster would always be finishing with combinations. There was no chance for the ref to give a count. He would catch his guys falling, and hitting the ropes with 2, 3, and 4 shots.. In that sense he was one of the greatest finishers of all time. Purely an executioner. This helped build his legend as a KO artist. He was actually lighting guys up with multiple kill shots.

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        #83
        Originally posted by !! Shawn
        Jack Dempsey?

        Sandy Saddler and Bob Foster are punchers. You are confusing finishing with ability to win by knockout. They are not the same.

        I can only name 1 fighter that was hurt by Pavlik and lasted more than a round after that. Zuniga, and Pavlik did hurt him again and didn't let him off the hook.

        How many fighters did Jack Dempsey let off the hook?
        How about Bob Foster?
        How about Sandy Sadler?

        All of those guys frequently rocked a fighter but failed to capitalize on the success.

        Finishing ability is all about how many times you have to hurt your opponent before you can close the show.

        Pavlik only needs one.
        Yes, Jack Dempsey. Are you confused about that?

        You must be kidding.. You are talking out of your ass at this point, buddy. You haven't seen these cats fight. HaHA..

        You're asking about Saddler, Foster, and Dempsey letting people off the hook???? BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! C'mon dude!

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          #84
          Originally posted by !! Shawn
          Jack Dempsey?

          Sandy Saddler and Bob Foster are punchers. You are confusing finishing with ability to win by knockout. They are not the same.

          I can only name 1 fighter that was hurt by Pavlik and lasted more than a round after that. Zuniga, and Pavlik did hurt him again and didn't let him off the hook.

          How many fighters did Jack Dempsey let off the hook?
          How about Bob Foster?
          How about Sandy Sadler?

          All of those guys frequently rocked a fighter but failed to capitalize on the success.

          Finishing ability is all about how many times you have to hurt your opponent before you can close the show.

          Pavlik only needs one.


          Please continue

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            #85
            Originally posted by !! Shawn
            Jack Dempsey?

            Sandy Saddler and Bob Foster are punchers. You are confusing finishing with ability to win by knockout. They are not the same.

            I can only name 1 fighter that was hurt by Pavlik and lasted more than a round after that. Zuniga, and Pavlik did hurt him again and didn't let him off the hook.

            How many fighters did Jack Dempsey let off the hook?
            How about Bob Foster?
            How about Sandy Sadler?

            All of those guys frequently rocked a fighter but failed to capitalize on the success.

            Finishing ability is all about how many times you have to hurt your opponent before you can close the show.

            Pavlik only needs one.
            Shawn, by your own defintion Pavlik is not a finisher. You're getting confused now. Look how you ended this. ^ Relax.. HaHA..

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              #86
              Originally posted by Addison
              He probably would. Shawn is intense with this stuff..

              Foster would always be finishing with combinations. There was no chance for the ref to give a count. He would catch his guys falling, and hitting the ropes with 2, 3, and 4 shots.. In that sense he was one of the greatest finishers of all time. Purely an executioner. This helped build his legend as a KO artist. He was actually lighting guys up with multiple kill shots.
              Fosters combinations where mostly on helpless opponents. They were pretty combinations, but most of them were not really good for anything. His opponents would have gone down without them, but he was good at getting in those extra shots to make sure they didn't think about getting back up.

              How anyone can write Sadler off as not being a puncher is beyond me. He was perhaps the hardest puncher in the history of the lower divisions.

              I do have to admit that I have not seen much of Sadler, so he might be up there, but that goes back to the issue of excluding via lack of footage.

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                #87
                Originally posted by Addison
                Shawn, by your own defintion Pavlik is not a finisher. You're getting confused now. Look how you ended this. ^ Relax.. HaHA..
                No, I am not getting confused. Pavlik he doesn't let people off the hook.

                Foster did. Sadler did from what I have seen.

                Jack Dempsey honestly isn't even in the discussion.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by !! Shawn
                  Fosters combinations where mostly on helpless opponents. They were pretty combinations, but most of them were not really good for anything. His opponents would have gone down without them, but he was good at getting in those extra shots to make sure they didn't think about getting back up.

                  How anyone can write Sadler off as not being a puncher is beyond me. He was perhaps the hardest puncher in the history of the lower divisions.

                  I do have to admit that I have not seen much of Sadler, so he might be up there, but that goes back to the issue of excluding via lack of footage.
                  Saddler had 28 TKO's. Nearly 30% of his knockouts were by way off TKO.
                  THat is not one punch KO's. Which means he must be one hell of a finisher.

                  And if Fosters combinations were on helpless victims, what would you make off Pavlik's combinations on Taylor and Miranda?
                  I recall them as being pretty much helpless...

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by !! Shawn
                    No, I am not getting confused. Pavlik he doesn't let people off the hook.

                    Foster did. Sadler did from what I have seen.

                    Jack Dempsey honestly isn't even in the discussion.
                    Like I said; you clearly have not seen the films.. And you clearly don't know your Boxing history. We're in territory now that spans 80+ years.

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by !! Shawn
                      Fosters combinations where mostly on helpless opponents. They were pretty combinations, but most of them were not really good for anything. His opponents would have gone down without them, but he was good at getting in those extra shots to make sure they didn't think about getting back up.

                      How anyone can write Sadler off as not being a puncher is beyond me. He was perhaps the hardest puncher in the history of the lower divisions.

                      I do have to admit that I have not seen much of Sadler, so he might be up there, but that goes back to the issue of excluding via lack of footage.
                      Lack of footage on youtube?

                      And I think you just described Foster right back to me somehow..

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