What Has Calzaghe Done to be Considered Great?

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  • mECHsLAVE
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    #21
    Originally posted by !! $iN
    Hopkins has not been at his best for years. Just look at the Taylor fights from a few years ago. The man has no stamina and barely throws punches. He is washed up. Are you seriously trying to say a 43-year-old fighter is not way past his best?
    That's funny, because Taylor was the one gassing in the later rounds and Hopkins coming on strong, no? Taylor is a hard-punching, young fighter with a excellent jab, and a bit of an unknown when Hopkins fought him. Hopkins had trouble with him, and so what? Does that equal "washed up"? He's beaten Tarver and Wright since then. So from now on if a fighter loses a couple of fights, he's immediately "washed-up"? Even if he comes back with quality, impressive wins? Explain who ISN'T washed-up, then? If Hopkins is "washed-up" then half the fighters out there are.

    Age is not a measurement of how "washed up" you are in boxing. Sorry. This isn't baseball. It's not a game of numbers and stats. Take that **** to your fantasy leagues. Hopkins has NEVER been an agressive, volume puncher. He's always been a cautious, dirty, counter-puncher and seems to me not too much has changed. Watch him in his fights when people were heralding him as a "wonder," and comparing him to Hagler and all these great MW's, etc. He was fighting damn near the same way, the same pace, etc, as he does now.

    My gut feeling is that you are simply a hater. You hate Calzaghe for whatever reason (you failed to answer those questions) and fear he may beat Hopkins, so this thread is simply some pro-active damage control, trying to act as though Hopkins isn't the #1 LHW in the world and that he's washed up. Nice try, but very transparent.

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    • BrendanWoodside
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      #22
      Originally posted by sparked_85
      wow......this is a new thread, new idea.

      Calzaghe the protected Euro f.ag.

      If you thought Calzaghe was such a disgrace you wouldn't post threads about him everyday.

      If Calzaghe beats Hopkins and Pavlik. He'll be an ATG. The thread starter will cling to a low profile Chad Dawson like a piece of dog **** to a pair of new trainers, as a stick to beat Calzaghe with. If he turns out to be another Jeff Lacy, he'll cling to a Prime Roy Jones who would have been impossible to make a fight with at that time with Joe's lacklustre performances and mini fan base, and disillusioned promoter. Or he could use a fat, unprofessional, James Toney, whose path never ever showed any semblance of crossing with Joe's.

      All Americans obviously because everyone knows the only good fighters come out of the land of the twinky.

      Whatever, shut up SIN your boring.
      i can take alot but twinkie basing is unjust.. they are creme filled spongey cakes that are delicious.. thats not cool man

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      • sparked_85
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        #23
        Originally posted by BrendanWoodside
        i can take alot but twinkie basing is unjust.. they are creme filled spongey cakes that are delicious.. thats not cool man
        They don't go off forever do they?

        That's wrong.

        Their unnatural. haha.

        I love em though. And Cheetos, we used to have cheetos...not anymore

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        • CardioMonster
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          #24
          RJJ was too scared to fight Calzaghe, thats why he skipped the SMW division and went to LHW to fight bum after bum...you guys arent fooling anyone...

          Felix Trinidad HAHAHAH

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          • sparked_85
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            #25
            De La Hoya would have whooped Calzaghe.

            So would Tito, Tarver, Winky.

            Erm................Robert Allen, Joe Lipsey....erm.....uh?

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            • BattlingNelson
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              #26
              Originally posted by sparked_85
              They don't go off forever do they?

              That's wrong.

              Their unnatural. haha.

              I love em though. And Cheetos, we used to have cheetos...not anymore
              As a service to you here is a cheater with some Cheatos. He comes from the land of the twinky:

              [IMG]***********[/IMG]

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              • MikeBrew328
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                #27
                Originally posted by _Ricky_
                It's people like this idiot who make other yanks who can be easily brainwashed think the same. Calzaghe isn't an unproven commodity he is an ATG. His win over Hopkins (Yes, a 43 year old Hopkins albeit) will cement that.
                Then prove it lol. He is NOT an ATG, don't fool yourself.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by mECHsLAVE
                  That's funny, because Taylor was the one gassing in the later rounds and Hopkins coming on strong, no? Taylor is a hard-punching, young fighter with a excellent jab, and a bit of an unknown when Hopkins fought him. Hopkins had trouble with him, and so what? Does that equal "washed up"? He's beaten Tarver and Wright since then. So from now on if a fighter loses a couple of fights, he's immediately "washed-up"? Even if he comes back with quality, impressive wins? Explain who ISN'T washed-up, then? If Hopkins is "washed-up" then half the fighters out there are.

                  Age is not a measurement of how "washed up" you are in boxing. Sorry. This isn't baseball. It's not a game of numbers and stats. Take that **** to your fantasy leagues.
                  He's certainly not in his prime. 43 year old men are not made to fight as good as they were at 25-32. That's like saying Trevor Berbick is an ATG because he beat Muhammad Ali. I don't think so. What your saying is that baseball players last longer than boxers and that is completely absurd.

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                  • sparked_85
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by MikeBrew328
                    He's certainly not in his prime. 43 year old men are not made to fight as good as they were at 25-32. That's like saying Trevor Berbick is an ATG because he beat Muhammad Ali. I don't think so. What your saying is that baseball players last longer than boxers and that is completely absurd.
                    when was his prime?

                    who was he beating in his prime?

                    etc etc etc.......

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                    • big paulie
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by _Ricky_
                      It's people like this idiot who make other yanks who can be easily brainwashed think the same. Calzaghe isn't an unproven commodity he is an ATG. His win over Hopkins (Yes, a 43 year old Hopkins albeit) will cement that.
                      You seriously need to fix up if you believe JC is an atg, thats just ****ing outrageous son

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