Expect to see a physically "big" Bernard Hopkins against Calzaghe

[Sinisterevo]

I can't believe no one has posted one of these yet...i'll be the first

[dansweeney]

True, Hopkins is a talented counterpuncher. He may well catch Joe with that perfect shot. But, the fact remains that Kessler caught Joe with one or two flush, on-the-point-of-the-chin uppercuts, with good balance and planted feet, while Joe was on his way in. Not to mention more than one good counter right hand (B-Hops money punch, arguably), and Calzaghe delt with it. it's hard to see Hopkins knocking Calzaghe down, much less out.

kessler did catch him but one thing i learned about b-hop is never to underestimate him. i doubt he knocks him down or out also but you never know

[dansweeney]

I don't see you telling everyone who said the same thing they are wrong....

Could it be that you know I'm right and are now clutching at straws in a lame and ultimately unfruitful attempt to seem intelligent?

you don't get it do you? right about what? you insulted the guy for bringing up what hopkins game plan could be, and made it like he was trying to insult calzaghe,. he was not insulting calzaghe which is the point he made to you and the point im trying to make to you. what are you saying your right about? there was no debate to win. you misunderstood the guys post dude. plain and simple. if you can't admit that then maybe you are the one who lacks intelligence.

[kayjay]

Ok, so B-Hop couldn't hurt Winky. Hasn't Winky been hurt more times than Calzaghe though? Doesn't that mean that B-Hop isn't going to hurt Calzaghe? Of course, this is all speculation, apart from one thing:

You're an idiot.

Winky has been hurt fighting cautiously at 154, Calzaghe not nearly as hurt fighting recklessly at 168.

[Scoooter]

kessler did catch him but one thing i learned about b-hop is never to underestimate him. i doubt he knocks him down or out also but you never know

Agreed, you can never write B-Hop off as an opponent. I wouldn't be too surprised if he got the nod in a close fight.

[BattlingNelson]

Against Tarver:



Against Winky:



Obviously, his fight against Winky was at a catch weight and lower then what he fought against Tarver at so that also had something to do with the physical difference, but more so I think the strategy was to physically hurt Tarver, whereas against Winky, he knew he couldn't hurt him so it was more of a tactical approach and strong emphasis on conditioning training rather than power training.

Against Calzaghe, he knows Joe is faster and has a higher workrate. He knows that even if he trains hard in these areas, Joe will still have the advantage. So his game plan will be to work on power and counter punching. He will try to hurt/stun Joe around the mid rounds, just like against Tarver, which in theory will slow down Joe's workrate and make him more cautious.

Thoughts?

Fine angle to put on this fight. If Hopkins is to have any shot at all at winning, he should work on power and counter-punching. It's imperative that he discourages Joe from firing 1000 punches. He must make Joe pay with hard countershots and try to slow Joe down with a good body-attack. There is no way B-hop can outpoint him IMO, so he most hurt him and wear him down, rough him up, fight him as dirty as possible and spoil Joes style.

Of course this is easier said than done. I think Joe will win either by late stoppage or perhaps points. I lean on a stoppage 'cause Hopkins is 43 and I dont think he can keep up with Joe in the championship rounds.

[dansweeney]

Winky has been hurt fighting cautiously at 154, Calzaghe not nearly as hurt fighting recklessly at 168.

who hurt winky at 154? early in his career he was hurt a couple times. but where did all this talk about winky getting hurt come from? calzaghe has been down twice in recent years, i don't remember winky going down in about 10 years

[GTL]

Against Tarver:



Against Winky:



Obviously, his fight against Winky was at a catch weight and lower then what he fought against Tarver at so that also had something to do with the physical difference, but more so I think the strategy was to physically hurt Tarver, whereas against Winky, he knew he couldn't hurt him so it was more of a tactical approach and strong emphasis on conditioning training rather than power training.

Against Calzaghe, he knows Joe is faster and has a higher workrate. He knows that even if he trains hard in these areas, Joe will still have the advantage. So his game plan will be to work on power and counter punching. He will try to hurt/stun Joe around the mid rounds, just like against Tarver, which in theory will slow down Joe's workrate and make him more cautious.

Thoughts?

i disagree with the gameplan completely.. i dont think hell come in strong..

you going to see a skilled bhop..
his last fight with winky, well, he didnt train so hard.. u can just tell by lookin at his body.. rumors as well

i dont think hell win, but hell win a few rounds

[GTL]

Fine angle to put on this fight. If Hopkins is to have any shot at all at winning, he should work on power and counter-punching. It's imperative that he discourages Joe from firing 1000 punches. He must make Joe pay with hard countershots and try to slow Joe down with a good body-attack. There is no way B-hop can outpoint him IMO, so he most hurt him and wear him down, rough him up, fight him as dirty as possible and spoil Joes style.

Of course this is easier said than done. I think Joe will win either by late stoppage or perhaps points. I lean on a stoppage 'cause Hopkins is 43 and I dont think he can keep up with Joe in the championship rounds.

JC ud..
no way in hell will he KO bhop..
ppl forget that bhop is a defensive genius.
bhop has never been hurt.. and wont be in this fight either.. esp with JC telegraphed punches

[ml2niceguy]

like homeboy said...muscles don't help you win fights