Heavyweight Era: Which Team Wins

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  • TheGreatA
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    #41
    Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
    bad matchup against holmes. i think holmes would keep him away.

    frazier is a slow starter and that's not good against a fast starter like mike.

    lewis is too big for frazier. at lease ali is 6'3 and could use his excellent footwork against lennox. foreman only needs one roundhouse right to put lennox to sleep.

    i don't think liston would do much better than frazier but just complaining about holmes being on team 2 since his era was before mike's and lennox. it should be holyfield on there and i think joe takes him.
    Frazier would get to Holmes later on in the fight. It would be like Norton vs Holmes, could go either way...





    Holmes from the Norton fight against Frazier from the first Ali fight, that would be a trendemous match-up.
    Last edited by TheGreatA; 06-27-2008, 10:17 AM.

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    • Left Hook Tua
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      #42
      Originally posted by TheManchine
      Frazier would get to Holmes later on in the fight. It would be like Norton vs Holmes, could go either way...



      possible.

      i don't know why when i try to picture the fight in my head......i just keep seeing holmes land jab after jab after jab and joe's eyes all puffy and swollen.

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        #43
        Originally posted by Live Dog
        Well looking at the teams I think Ali>Lennox, Frazier>Tyson, and Holmes>Foreman. Mike was a fast starter but he really had nothing to offer from round 6 on. I believe Frazier could weather any storm Mike throws at him in the beginning rounds and goes on to make Tyson look silly in the second half of the fight.
        i don't know live. joe was great but he might get overpowered by tyson. i'd rather see him against holmes. like manchine said frazier might beat holmes and foreman can take on tyson.

        see that's why i don't want holmes on that team! start a new one with holyfield , reed!

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        • Danny Gunz
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          #44
          I honestly think in his prime tyson knocks out everyone of those guys even george foreman.

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          • Left Hook Tua
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            #45
            Originally posted by boxer Q21
            I honestly think in his prime tyson knocks out everyone of those guys even george foreman.
            he was in his prime when he lost to buster.

            you telling me ali couldn't come up with a similar fight plan?

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            • Live Dog
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              #46
              Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
              he was in his prime when he lost to buster.

              you telling me ali couldn't come up with a similar fight plan?
              Ali would have had that fight won before they even stepped in the ring.

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                #47
                Originally posted by Live Dog
                Ali would have had that fight won before they even stepped in the ring.
                agreed.

                i love how everyone says tyson would give ali a hard time because look how a frazier did against ali.

                first , that wasn't the prime ali.

                second , even though mike has physical advantages over joe doesn't mean he'd do better against ali than joe.

                joe was just possessed against ali. fighting ali brought out the best in joe , for his own personal reasons. even if ali had hit 10 times harder there was no way joe would have ever let ali ko him or win an easy fight over him. look at the thrilla in manila. joe had nothing left and he couldn't see and he was still upset with eddie futch for waving the towel in the fight. he didn't forgive eddie futch for decades for stopping that fight.

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                • THE REED
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                  #48
                  try this one again

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                  • them_apples
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                    #49
                    put holy field in there and its about even

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                    • them_apples
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
                      agreed.

                      i love how everyone says tyson would give ali a hard time because look how a frazier did against ali.

                      first , that wasn't the prime ali.

                      second , even though mike has physical advantages over joe doesn't mean he'd do better against ali than joe.

                      joe was just possessed against ali. fighting ali brought out the best in joe , for his own personal reasons. even if ali had hit 10 times harder there was no way joe would have ever let ali ko him or win an easy fight over him. look at the thrilla in manila. joe had nothing left and he couldn't see and he was still upset with eddie futch for waving the towel in the fight. he didn't forgive eddie futch for decades for stopping that fight.
                      I don't know man, Tyson may not be the greatest of all time but I sincerely think he would give Ali huge problems just based on styles. Ali was a dancer and Tyson loved to chase. Tyson's got a lot of speed and if you don't smother him fast there isn't much chance of you winning, especially since Ali lacked a solid uppercut and wasn't always a good inside fighter.

                      keep in mind size to, Tyson's a bit bigger than Frazier and much stronger.

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