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  • Dick-Sucker
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    #1

    How can you call Taylor or Pavlik elite

    Sure they have put on a couple of good performances.

    Here is Pavlik :

    - A strong jab and great overall punching power.

    - severely lacking in the speed department.

    - He can't fight any other styles than brawl.


    Taylor:

    - Technique is non existent. Throws wild loopy right hands.

    - Speed is good, power is decent.

    - Has the tendency to get hit a lot.

    Conclusion : Calzaghe, Kessler, Mundine and Bute would destroy both of these fighters. If Abraham is his biggest threat, and after watching his fight with Miranda it is evident the MW division is weak.

    Its about time the US starts seeing the best fighters. Technically correct, power, speed and fantastic footwork in front of them. What your seeing now is now elite fighters, sure there putting on a war but they are decent fighters.

    When Calzaghe KO's Hopkins. The demand for Kessler, Mundine and Bute to fight in the USA will be large. And about time.........
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    they are both elite! taylor beat bhop 2x!!!!!!!!!! pavlik beat taylor 2x, miranda by brutal ko. come on dude! and who the **** has butte beaten that is even close to the level of bhop, winky, or miranda? i'll wait!

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    • dc6112
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      #3
      You can call Taylor elite, not P4P, but top tier because:

      A. He beat Hopkins, an all time great, twice, at a time when he could still truly be called a top 5 p4p fighter.

      B. He has one of the best jabs in the sport, when he uses it.

      Pavlik has:

      A. some of the best p4p power, division wise, in the sport.

      B. While maybe lacking in speed, a very good jab, a solid defense, and a solid chin.

      C. Beat Miranda and Taylor, two fighters in their prime who are thought of as pretty dangerous guys.

      D. One of the biggest hearts in all of the sport.

      Should I add more to this list?

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      • Mizzou
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        #4
        Originally posted by Ultimateboxa
        Sure they have put on a couple of good performances.

        Here is Pavlik :

        - A strong jab and great overall punching power.

        - severely lacking in the speed department.

        - He can't fight any other styles than brawl.


        Taylor:

        - Technique is non existent. Throws wild loopy right hands.

        - Speed is good, power is decent.

        - Has the tendency to get hit a lot.

        Conclusion : Calzaghe, Kessler, Mundine and Bute would destroy both of these fighters. If Abraham is his biggest threat, and after watching his fight with Miranda it is evident the MW division is weak.

        Its about time the US starts seeing the best fighters. Technically correct, power, speed and fantastic footwork in front of them. What your seeing now is now elite fighters, sure there putting on a war but they are decent fighters.

        When Calzaghe KO's Hopkins. The demand for Kessler, Mundine and Bute to fight in the USA will be large. And about time.........
        All I needed to hear is that JC will KO Hopkins. Beetleheaded Euro homer.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Melly-Mel
          they are both elite! taylor beat bhop 2x!!!!!!!!!! pavlik beat taylor 2x, miranda by brutal ko. come on dude! and who the **** has butte beaten that is even close to the level of bhop, winky, or miranda? i'll wait!
          Calzaghe, Kessler, Mundine and Bute are all much more complete fighters.

          How would Pavlik respond to someone fighting on the outside? Im sure mundine could pick him off at will like he did to Danny Green.

          Bute and Kessler are just as powerful on the inside and better on the out.

          Calzaghe is better in every department.

          Why the fck would you pay to see Mirand and Winky fight. And a past it B-Hop who throws 12 punches a round.

          The American boxing public are not watching the best fighters in the world from MW to LHW. Because the top 4 fighters at SMW are exactly that and they are no were to be seen.

          Face it, America falls for promotions and media, e.g Miranda could knock 100 guys out with one punch. Who the fck has Miranda knocked out? He couldn't stop Allan Green even.

          America = Is not watching the best fighters.

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          • dc6112
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            #6
            And you're seriously going to tell me that Bute and Mundine are more deserving of the "elite" title than Pavlik or Taylor? Are you serious? Kessler I have no prob admitting is a class choice, but the other two? Really?

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              because they have spirit fingers.

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                #8
                Originally posted by MizzzouMan
                All I needed to hear is that JC will KO Hopkins. Beetleheaded Euro homer.
                Im Australian and Calzaghe vs Hopkins is one of the most lob sided fights i have ever seen.

                Calzaghe TKO in 8. He will dominate the first 8 rounds.

                Seriously get with it man. So many dillusional US boxing fans out there.

                Why you guys would rather watch Winky, B-HOP, Pavlik, Taylor over Calzaghe, Kessler, Bute and Mundine is beyond me....

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                • RodBarker
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                  #9
                  Elite is a subjective term , are they elite compared to Hagler no ,,,,, are they elite compared to who is out there right now , yes as there is nobody in the game today they couldnt share the ring with competitively .

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                    #10
                    Oh god.

                    Here we go with the SMW division being loaded full of stars. pfff.



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