Am I the only guy here that thinks Cotto isnt getting past Margarito?!

[THE REED]

Think you missed my point in referencing Shane Mosley's ability to land overhand rights.

Mosley was able to land those punches because he was

A) Smart enough to feint Cotto into creating the opening

and

B) Fast enough to put a right hand through the opening before it closed.

Margarito is neither smart enough to create the opening, nor fast enough to take advantage of it if he could create it.

About Margarito's hand speed, I have to disagree with you. If there is a fighter with p4p slower hands, I have never seen them.

His jab is pretty average in speed, but his right hand is SOOOOO slow. His left hook is SLOW. His uppercuts, SLOW

Margarito does have a good uppercut, but only in combinations, unfortunately, its hard to put together combinations like that against a smart fighter like Cotto.

Also, Margarito has a 1 inch shorter reach than Shane Mosley.

I agree with you on why mosley can land the over hand right... But I believe the extra height advanatge is what will help Margarito make up for the lack of speed, and land that Overhand.



This video shows a few things...

A. Margarito, CAN be hit.
B. Margarito, CAN take it.
C. Margarito's punches arent THAT slow.

And p4p slower hands?

Nikolai Valuev

[!! Shawn]

I agree with you on why mosley can land the over hand right... But I believe the extra height advanatge is what will help Margarito make up for the lack of speed, and land that Overhand.



This video shows a few things...

A. Margarito, CAN be hit.
B. Margarito, CAN take it.
C. Margarito's punches arent THAT slow.

And p4p slower hands?

Nikolai Valuev

That video pretty much proved everything I have said. His hands are horribly slow. Even Carlos Baldomir looks swift in comparison.

Valuev gets a bad rap. Most people have never even seen him fight, and assume his hands are slow because he is so big. In reality, he actually has some pretty quick hands, especially considering his size.

[!! Shawn]

Id actually recon that not only does Valuev have faster hands than Margarito p4p, Id go as far as to say in terms of real hand speed, Valuev is faster than Margarito.

[THE REED]

That video pretty much proved everything I have said. His hands are horribly slow. Even Carlos Baldomir looks swift in comparison.

Valuev gets a bad rap. Most people have never even seen him fight, and assume his hands are slow because he is so big. In reality, he actually has some pretty quick hands, especially considering his size.

Well then we will have to agree to disagree on how slow his hands are... I dont think there fast... I just dont think there so slow that he cant connect with someone.

And if you were to set up a speed gun, on who could throw faster hands, Margarito or Valuev. LOL. Id put my house on Margarito.

Good discussion, good debate. Im headin to bed. Ciao yall.

[!! Shawn]

Well then we will have to agree to disagree on how slow his hands are... I dont think there fast... I just dont think there so slow that he cant connect with someone.

And if you were to set up a speed gun, on who could throw faster hands, Margarito or Valuev. LOL. Id put my house on Margarito.

Good discussion, good debate. Im headin to bed. Ciao yall.

Well they sure arn't Roy Jones, thats for sure.

[OmnipotentFloyd]

Id actually recon that not only does Valuev have faster hands than Margarito p4p, Id go as far as to say in terms of real hand speed, Valuev is faster than Margarito.

damn why you playing Margarito like that!? Valuev is the slowest puncher ever.

[THE REED]

Well they sure arn't Roy Jones, thats for sure.

LOL SOLUT TO THAT!

[THE REED]

damn why you playing Margarito like that!? Valuev is the slowest puncher ever.

Yeah Valuev is like... i dont even know how you get hit from that guy.

[DiegoFuego]

I think Margarito sucks, so yeah Cotto should get past him with a mix of boxing and brawling

[THE REED]

I think Margarito sucks, so yeah Cotto should get past him with a mix of boxing and brawling

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