People forget A Mexican Already Beat Pacquiao his name is El Terrible.

[2501]

just wanna add this, Erik deserved that win against David Diaz.

[mrpain81]

Pac has been nothing but good for Boxing.

Mexico now has another rival besides the Ricans to make mega fights with, sure some of his fans can be ignorant trolls on the boards but Pac has been nothing but a class act and is an alltime great no matter how you look at it.

[Fox McCloud]

he was literally outboxed. He was the aggressor up to the last second.

being shot because of this fight is idiotic. the drained excuse is so much better.

Meldrick Taylor was beating Chavez in the fight that made him shot, am I right? It could be that Morales lost it in the first Pacquiao fight.

But the drained excuse is definately true. Definately. He was bloated like he was having his period.

[ferocity]

He wasn't shot the second time he fought Pacquiao, he was drained, the way he fought the first few rounds in the second fight wasn't the way a shot fighter would fight. He definitely was weight drained though.

True, i even recall thinking damn, Morales is just too damn good for Pacquiao and this was in the 5 round. Then little by little you see him huffing and puffing and nothing on his punchs.

[ferocity]

just wanna add this, Erik deserved that win against David Diaz.

Im going to be honest i thought Diaz won by a very close margin. Morales was dead on his feet Diaz was all over him.

[Fox McCloud]

True, i even recall thinking damn, Morales is just too damn good for Pacquiao and this was in the 5 round. Then little by little you see him huffing and puffing and nothing on his punchs.

Well something wasn't right, because he got smacked just as hard in the first fight against Pacquiao, and didn't completely shut down in 8.

No one is actually claiming that Pacquiao's power knocked Erik out right? Everyone is in agreement that Erik was exhausted, and Pacquiao's punches may have contributed to that, but mostly it was exhaustion.

That being said, that should have happened in the first fight if Erik didn't have something wrong with him.

[Silencers]

just wanna add this, Erik deserved that win against David Diaz.

I thought Morales won as well, by 2 points.

[Silencers]

Well something wasn't right, because he got smacked just as hard in the first fight against Pacquiao, and didn't completely shut down in 8.

No one is actually claiming that Pacquiao's power knocked Erik out right? Everyone is in agreement that Erik was exhausted, and Pacquiao's punches may have contributed to that, but mostly it was exhaustion.

That being said, that should have happened in the first fight if Erik didn't have something wrong with him.

I think he had more trouble making weight the second time than the first.

[ferocity]

That was a great fight, Morales had unbelievable guts, turining southpaw in the 12th round he got hit with bombs when he did that.

Whats funny is some of Pacquiaos fans hold onto that 12 round like Pacquao made it happen when it was Morales who noticed that the crowd was bored and as soon as Morales went to southpaw and engaged in war fare the crowd woke up, just as Morales had intended it. And what happens right after...we hear, "if there was one more round Pacquiao would have won"......."If it wasn't for the cut Pacquiao would have won".........****en excuses were rampent.

[Fox McCloud]

I think he had more trouble making weight the second time than the first.

That's what I'm saying. Either he was shot or drained, because something was clearly different for Erik Morales in the second fight than it was in the first fight.