Has Pacquiao surpassed Mayweather as the #1 P4P fighter

[squealpiggy]

Fake Floyd runs his mouth like a lil ***** yet he can't back it up.

Are you for real?

[T-97]

What I surmise is that Fake Floyd fans seem to admire cowards and undignified punks who puts no value on honor and class.

I mean it's all basic.

Fake Floyd runs his mouth like a lil ***** yet he can't back it up.

The list of opponents he has ducked are SO FCKING MANY a beggar will puke at such a disgrace.

And yet I still can't wonder how on this good earth they put him p4p.

BEING THE BEST MEANS FIGHTING THE BEST.

It's all common sense and I cannot understand how these chumps can't see that.

Belts mean nothing.

Titles mean nothing.

At the end of the day one will be judged on the who's who of one's accomplishments.

Basic common sense which I can't understand why they don't posses.

He fought the number 1 140 pounder (hatton) and the number 1 154 pounder (de la hoya although not everyone rates him at number 1) in his last 2 fights. Then before that he fought the number 1 rated 147 pounder (bldomir). These are fighters that you might call crap but the point is that at the time floyd fought them they were the number 1 guys between 140-154 pounds.

[Boxing4Real]

Pacquiao's opposition is certainly impressive, but still not as impressive to me as Mayweather's opposition.

Pacquiao's biggest victories by far are JMM, Barrera, Morales, in any order you like. Outside of those, there's nobody really special. Good fighters, absolutely, but not top top fighters, not in my opinion.

Mayweather, on the other hand, has Corrales, Castillo, Judah, DLH, Hatton, and Genaro Hernandez.

Let us even throw Oscar Larios on Pacquiao's pile. Fine, then I give you Mitchell, Corley, Manfredy, Gatti, Carlos Famoso Hernandez, and Sosa.

Going by resume, it's really not even close, as good as Pacquiao is, his resume still isn't as good as Mayweather's. Also, Mayweather didn't lose to any journeymen.

Pac has been knocked out in 3 rounds twice by virtual journeymen. One was definitely a journeyman, the other was an 18-0 guy with a very padded record. Yes, Pac drained himself and just couldn't make the weight, we all know this.

However, Mayweather has broken hands in fights and fought through the pain to get the victories. Even if you disagree with the first Castillo fight (which I don't), Mayweather still fought through injuries to make it the distance.

As for risk, Mayweather's last two opponents were Oscar De La Hoya and Ricky Hatton. He convincingly beat them both in the same year. De La Hoya was a definite knockout threat and Mayweather fought him at a career high weight. Some would argue that De La Hoya was old. He was the same age as JMM when Pac fought JMM in the rematch this week, 34. Hatton was certainly young and unquestionably a serious threat.

Pacquiao is an amazing fighter, one of my favorites, but it isn't fair to give him more credit than Mayweather when Mayweather has clearly done more so far (in my opinion at least). Remember, Mayweather dominated his biggest threats. Pacquiao got a split decision that many disagree with (even though I personally scored the fight in Pacquiao's favor).

[JoartCC]

Are you for real?

You want evidence?

Make sure you don't buckle up on your word when absolute evidence is shoved straight to your face.

Fake Floyd fans seems to emulate the undignified Fake Floyd.

[squealpiggy]

He fought the number 1 140 pounder (hatton) and the number 1 154 pounder (de la hoya although not everyone rates him at number 1) in his last 2 fights. Then before that he fought the number 1 rated 147 pounder (bldomir). These are fighters that you might call crap but the point is that at the time floyd fought them they were the number 1 guys between 140-154 pounds.

I wouldn't say that Baldomir was ever the best at 147 lbs but at the time the real clamour was for a fight with Margarito, who is now well off the radar. The only real fight at 147 for Floyd now is Cotto, but there's more money in a fight with De La Hoya or even a Hatton rematch in England.

[JoartCC]

He fought the number 1 140 pounder (hatton) and the number 1 154 pounder (de la hoya although not everyone rates him at number 1) in his last 2 fights. Then before that he fought the number 1 rated 147 pounder (bldomir). These are fighters that you might call crap but the point is that at the time floyd fought them they were the number 1 guys between 140-154 pounds.

KOstya, Spafa, Freitas, Marg, Casa, Mosley, Cotto, Williams, etc.

It's not debatable.

[squealpiggy]

You want evidence?

Make sure you don't buckle up on your word when absolute evidence is shoved straight to your face.

Fake Floyd fans seems to emulate the undignified Fake Floyd.

I'm not even a fan of Mayweather and I can tell you're full of ****. Floyd doesn't back it up? When has he not backed it up? Are you going to give me a list of names including Margarito and Williams now?

****ing Margarito and Williams.

[slicksouthpaw16]

Casa, Freitas, KOstya, Spafa, Marg, Cotto, Williams, Mosley, Quintana, etc.

Yeah he did DUCK the best.

Just about as ****** as you can be eh?

But if you're a man who prefer cowards then I won't even try arguing w you.

I'm arguing w men who prefer dignified champs.

Not with cowards.

Casamayor or Freitas was not in the division at the time that Mayweather was there. Casamayor was only an up and comer at the time and was not a big enough name.

Mosley had a chance to fight Mayeather after the wins over Vargas but didn't want to take the fight at that time because of his dentures in his mouth.

The Spadofora fight was highly talked about until Paul went to jail for shooting his girlfriend in the chest for messing up his car. He held his own against Mayweather in sparring and the actual fight would have been interesting. Which i would have favored Mayweather in a good fight. Mayweather was also coming from a long lay off and was out of shape when the sparring session occurred.

When you had that Joepal account, you continuously hated on Mayeather for no particular reason. You also kept talking about how Hatton would knock Mayweather out and when he lost, you said that you picked Mayweather to win anyway. You are clearly a joke that doesn't need to be taken seriously. and your biased for Pacquaio needs a little rethinking. Get your facts straight.

[SkillspayBills]

Pacquiao's opposition is certainly impressive, but still not as impressive to me as Mayweather's opposition.

Pacquiao's biggest victories by far are JMM, Barrera, Morales, in any order you like. Outside of those, there's nobody really special. Good fighters, absolutely, but not top top fighters, not in my opinion.

Mayweather, on the other hand, has Corrales, Castillo, Judah, DLH, Hatton, and Genaro Hernandez.

Let us even throw Oscar Larios on Pacquiao's pile. Fine, then I give you Mitchell, Corley, Manfredy, Gatti, Carlos Famoso Hernandez, and Sosa.

Going by resume, it's really not even close, as good as Pacquiao is, his resume still isn't as good as Mayweather's. Also, Mayweather didn't lose to any journeymen.

Pac has been knocked out in 3 rounds twice by virtual journeymen. One was definitely a journeyman, the other was an 18-0 guy with a very padded record. Yes, Pac drained himself and just couldn't make the weight, we all know this.

However, Mayweather has broken hands in fights and fought through the pain to get the victories. Even if you disagree with the first Castillo fight (which I don't), Mayweather still fought through injuries to make it the distance.

As for risk, Mayweather's last two opponents were Oscar De La Hoya and Ricky Hatton. He convincingly beat them both in the same year. De La Hoya was a definite knockout threat and Mayweather fought him at a career high weight. Some would argue that De La Hoya was old. He was the same age as JMM when Pac fought JMM in the rematch this week, 34. Hatton was certainly young and unquestionably a serious threat.

Pacquiao is an amazing fighter, one of my favorites, but it isn't fair to give him more credit than Mayweather when Mayweather has clearly done more so far (in my opinion at least). Remember, Mayweather dominated his biggest threats. Pacquiao got a split decision that many disagree with (even though I personally scored the fight in Pacquiao's favor).

OH ****!! Don Omega said something that made perfect sense and that I can agree with.

[SkilledB]

well from the RBR i read on here pac was getting his ass beat by JMM and even got cut, and won a SD, so he is still #2 imo, he is an exciting fighter but he dose not hold the titles and the movments in weight classes like PBF dose, yes if Cal beats b-hop he is #2.