Has Pacquiao surpassed Mayweather as the #1 P4P fighter

[Harms]

The question is simple.

It will determine who among us prefer cowards or those who prefer dignified champs.

WHICH IS MORE WORTHY.. FIGHTING A BLOWN-UP WELTER OR FIGHTING A TOP3 P4P GUY?

The answers are easy.

If you prefer the coward of course ul pick the guy who fought the blown-up welter.

But if you prefer the dignified champ.

You don't need to look any further.

I guess if the question was who do you wish was the p4p #1, but it wasn't. I don't see how barely beating JMM would catapult him past PBF. PBF made Hatton look silly and the DLH fight wasn't nearly as close as say Pac/JMM. When Floyd starts having controversial dec. then I may be inclined to reconsider.

[JoartCC]

I guess if the question was who do you wish was the p4p #1, but it wasn't. I don't see how barely beating JMM would catapult him past PBF. PBF made Hatton look silly and the DLH fight wasn't nearly as close as say Pac/JMM. When Floyd starts having controversial dec. then I may be inclined to reconsider.

So you prefer the coward who pissses on his pants rather than the dignified champ who lined up every elite of his era and is even planning more ambitious moves?

Oh well, can't blame you if you choose the coward.

Maybe you do love cowards so I can't convince you otherwise.

[JoartCC]

K. I have eyes.

lol Pacquiao flat out isn't on Floyd's level. P4P he hits harder, and might have faster hands.........perhaps is the faster fighter in a pure sense. Floyd is smarter, much more gifted technically, has maybe the best defensive skill set of any fighter who has ever fought including Whitaker (arguable.)

You can point to him getting floored by Judah, stunned by Corley, and all that but at the end of the day he's still undefeated.

Him capturing all the titles moving up in weight, and dismantling a prime P4P superstar in Hatton and Gate draw/legend in Oscar was impressive..........because he had already beaten the other solid guys in Corrales, Chavez and Castillo.

Pac was beat by Morales, beat a Barrera who was far too slow and technical for his awkward speed attack, beat up a Morales who already showed that he grew old overnight by taking a vicious beating from Raheem (I don't think the blown up weight was the difference maker, that was Morales showing clear signs of deterioration in his reflexes and coordination). Twice, lol. And then beat up the same Barrera who had the tough third fight with Morales as well as the two with Juarez.


And in my eyes he should be 0-2 against Marquez.

But then again.

P4p is measured by skill.

Common sense.

Skill is measured by resume

Another common sense.

Resume is measured by taking on the best.

Another lesson in common sense.

Freitas, Casa, Spafa, KOstya, Margarito, Williams, Cotto, Quintana, Mosley, etc.

You know those names so we will not argue anymore on that.

And dude don't talk to me like Fake Floyd shoots lightning bolts out of his ass. I'd be amazed if he still shoots bolts of lightning out of his ass once he takes on the best of every division he jumps in,

Not take on Gatti, Judah, Baldomir, a shot DLH, Corley, etc.

It's not even debatable.

[JoartCC]

I mean Jesus let's just sit down and watch a video of Floyd and Pac.

I mean you will clearly see the quality difference between each fighter. lol

Of course you are right.

Pac is a million times better than Fake FLoyd p4p.

Pac has just emerged at the top of the fab four of his era.

He has beaten p4p best and ATG's.

While Fake Floyd the coward pisses on his pants whenever a real opponent faces him.

Just in case you haven't seen this, watch how Fake FLoyd pisses on his pants.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbyQsaigxxU&feature=related

So yes.

You are right.

Pac is way better than Fake Floyd.

[Vladimir303]

But then again.

P4p is measured by skill.

Common sense.

Skill is measured by resume

Another common sense.

Resume is measured by taking on the best.

Another lesson in common sense.

Freitas, Casa, Spafa, KOstya, Margarito, Williams, Cotto, Quintana, Mosley, etc.

You know those names so we will not argue anymore on that.

And dude don't talk to me like Fake Floyd shoots lightning bolts out of his ass. I'd be amazed if he still shoots bolts of lightning out of his ass once he takes on the best of every division he jumps in,

Not take on Gatti, Judah, Baldomir, a shot DLH, Corley, etc.

It's not even debatable.

Floyd has fought :

The Best At 130 - G. Hernandez, Corrales

The Best at 135 - Castillo 2x

The Best at 140 - Hatton (The man Tszyu lost and Ricky ducked him but eventually fought him at 47, it counts as beating the best guy at 140.)

The Best at 147 - Badlomir (The Ring Magzine, WBC, Linear, Recognized Champ Would have been Undisputed had he paid all his sanctioning fees for the Judah fight.)


What's so hard to understand about facts? This isn't a popularity contest.

[JoartCC]

Floyd has fought :

The Best At 130 - G. Hernandez, Corrales

The Best at 135 - Castillo 2x

The Best at 140 - Hatton (The man Tszyu lost and Ricky ducked him but eventually fought him at 47, it counts as beating the best guy at 140.)

The Best at 147 - Badlomir (The Ring Magzine, WBC, Linear, Recognized Champ Would have been Undisputed had he paid all his sanctioning fees for the Judah fight.)


What's so hard to understand about facts? This isn't a popularity contest.

Casa, Freitas, KOstya, Spafa, Marg, Cotto, Williams, Mosley, Quintana, etc.

Yeah he did DUCK the best.

Just about as ****** as you can be eh?

But if you're a man who prefer cowards then I won't even try arguing w you.

I'm arguing w men who prefer dignified champs.

Not with cowards.

[squealpiggy]

Sucks when Ring mag's #2 and #3 P4P fight, and the winner is still not #1. Yet the #1 faces **** comp, and goes into WWF. That makes sense.

What you need to understand is that the p4p rankings are not seeding. You don't get to be number one by beating the number two or number three. It's entirely about theoretically who would win so in a way who you have beaten is largely irrelevent. Indeed the manner of victory is more important than the skill of the opponent.

P4p is measured by skill.

Common sense.

Skill is measured by resume

Another common sense.

Resume is measured by taking on the best.

Another lesson in common sense.

You are confusing the terms "common sense" and "my opinion".

[T-97]

Most deffinatly not!

P4P isn't supposed to be on who you have fought its if guys could fight without weight in the equation. But anyway Floyd is a 5 division champ so even if it was Floyd would be numero uno!

[Guest]

The question is simple.

It will determine who among us prefer cowards or those who prefer dignified champs.

WHICH IS MORE WORTHY.. FIGHTING A BLOWN-UP WELTER OR FIGHTING A TOP3 P4P GUY?

The answers are easy.

If you prefer the coward of course ul pick the guy who fought the blown-up welter.

But if you prefer the dignified champ.

You don't need to look any further.

Plain and basic common sense.

[JoartCC]

Plain and basic common sense.

What I surmise is that Fake Floyd fans seem to admire cowards and undignified punks who puts no value on honor and class.

I mean it's all basic.

Fake Floyd runs his mouth like a lil ***** yet he can't back it up.

The list of opponents he has ducked are SO FCKING MANY a beggar will puke at such a disgrace.

And yet I still can't wonder how on this good earth they put him p4p.

BEING THE BEST MEANS FIGHTING THE BEST.

It's all common sense and I cannot understand how these chumps can't see that.

Belts mean nothing.

Titles mean nothing.

At the end of the day one will be judged on the who's who of one's accomplishments.

Basic common sense which I can't understand why they don't posses.