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  • #21
    Originally posted by Chups View Post
    The big show is gonna toy with Floyd....this should drag his number 1 spot down to 2 or 3.
    Oh you'll be surprised my friend. We haven't seen the best of floyd. LOL! I gotta feeling they'll let floyd win.

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    • #22
      Why should he have to fight outside his country to move up in ranking? A ring is a ring no matter what country it's in.

      I don't think Calzaghe is p4p number one, mainly because he has only fought in one weight class, after he has a pop at the light heavyweight division i'd have more of an idea. But a no to Pacman for being number one right now, Floyd is just too good of a boxer, no matter who he's up against.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by CraigM View Post
        Why should he have to fight outside his country to move up in ranking? A ring is a ring no matter what country it's in.

        I don't think Calzaghe is p4p number one, mainly because he has only fought in one weight class, after he has a pop at the light heavyweight division i'd have more of an idea. But a no to Pacman for being number one right now, Floyd is just too good of a boxer, no matter who he's up against.
        You misunderstood. Who did he fight that's p4p material? He has never fought a great fighter until he fights b-hop but the guy is too old!

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        • #24
          Originally posted by deevel79 View Post
          The funny thing with Pac haters is, they all ***** and moan about how Morales and Barrera were "shot" when Pac fought them. I didnt see anybody claiming Morales was "shot" when he beat Pac the first time. Ask youself this.....Who made them "shot" fighters? Thats right..Pac did. I have nothing but praise for both Mexican legends, but this **** about Pac beating them because they were shot, has to stop.
          Ask yourself one question, Erik Morales lost 5 of his last 6 fights, is that the same Erik Morales who dominated the 90's and first half of 2000?

          I'm not taking anything away from Pac. I think he sealed Terrible's fate and finished off a fading fighter. But if you think that was Erik Morales wasn't on a down-slide late in his career then you don't know too much.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by MayweatherJr. View Post
            You misunderstood. Who did he fight that's p4p material? He has never fought a great fighter until he fights b-hop but the guy is too old!
            Kessler and Eubank. But it's not necessarily who you fight, but how good you are at it

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            • #26
              Originally posted by CraigM View Post
              Kessler and Eubank. But it's not necessarily who you fight, but how good you are at it
              They're not considered great fighters. They're good but not great. I rest my case.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by -GBGQ- View Post
                Ask yourself one question, Erik Morales lost 5 of his last 6 fights, is that the same Erik Morales who dominated the 90's and first half of 2000?

                I'm not taking anything away from Pac. I think he sealed Terrible's fate and finished off a fading fighter. But if you think that was Erik Morales wasn't on a down-slide late in his career then you don't know too much.

                3 of his last 6 fights were against Pac. Morales was also defeated by Barrera in one of those fights. Another fighter that Pac destroyed. Was Barrera shot aswell? Was u calling Morales shot when he beat Pac in thier first fight?

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by deevel79 View Post
                  3 of his last 6 fights were against Pac. Morales was also defeated by Barrera in one of those fights. Another fighter that Pac destroyed. Was Barrera shot aswell? Was u calling Morales shot when he beat Pac in thier first fight?
                  morales was coming off losing to zahir raheem when pac beat him.....everyone seems to forget this....

                  morale has had gradually less and less legs since his first fight with barrera....

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by -GBGQ- View Post
                    Ask yourself one question, Erik Morales lost 5 of his last 6 fights, is that the same Erik Morales who dominated the 90's and first half of 2000?

                    I'm not taking anything away from Pac. I think he sealed Terrible's fate and finished off a fading fighter. But if you think that was Erik Morales wasn't on a down-slide late in his career then you don't know too much.
                    I think the Pac vs Morales I even though Morales won that one (Pac first fight at 130, Pac fighting with one eye and pillow gloves) had taken something so much out of him. Prime Pac vs prime Eric, there's no way Eric can match Pac speed and power, especially todays Pac version . Remember, speed can kill and power can change everything. As for example, see his fight against Sasakul (112), Lebwaba (122) and Barrera (126). These 3 are very very good fighters in there prime years when Pac fought them displaying his speed and power. Pac was not even prime on that time just one dimensional slugger. See how it changed everything.
                    Last edited by whirlwind; 03-13-2008, 01:16 PM.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by -Hyperion- View Post
                      morales was coming off losing to zahir raheem when pac beat him.....everyone seems to forget this....

                      morale has had gradually less and less legs since his first fight with barrera....
                      So what you're saying is, between Pac/Morales I and Pac/Morales II, Morales became shot due to his loss against Raheem?

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